R420 might only support pixel shader 2.0

Yes I know there are few diffrences between the gamers and stuido cards. The main diffrence is the drivers .

Which is why i would use the ones geared towards what i was trying to do.

Just like if i was trying to win a nascar race i wouldn't take a hummer to race .

 

that's right, the differences are in the drivers. but what are the differences? So many people (not nessesarily you) dont have a clue and just blindly follow the "gamer cards dont work very well for workstation apps" mantra.

also, as for the Radeon 9700 under MAX- yeah, but MAX is a POS anyway (heh j/k, only my personal opinion) and it doesn't demand a lot more than raw performance from the GPU. However, if you're working with Maya or, even worse, Softimage XSI with a Radeon then you've got about a 50/50 chance of it either working wonderfully or not working at all. And there is yet to be a pattern established- it seems to be completely random from system to system.

 

Actually since you said "any kind" it would be good to mention that when looking at *other* professional apps that aren't 3dsmax, radeons do quite well and are most of the time better than nvidia

 

Softimage, Maya.

LightWave I don't know much about how well it does, and MAX I know likes FireGL's but I'm not sure about Radeons. Let's assume those two do work better on Radeons, so we have two that often you CANNOT run on Radeons and two that work fine with GeForces but can be faster on Radeons... which is the better choice?

btw, I run XSI and Maya on a GeForce4 Ti4200 and as much as I'd love an ATi for gaming, I CANNOT switch because there is too great a chance that I would break both of those apps which I MUST have.

 

The same people who decide what is considered a valid word in a given language, what the definition of said word is, and what the proper pronunciation of a word is.

Aliens.

 

ROFL...

 

Further OT, I know, but I really recommend to people who want to understand why English has some of these vagaries, that they read "Mother Tongue" by Bill Bryson. It contains a good summary of how English evolved. (Mind you I don't always agree with some of the things he says about other languages).

 

If the word were Inflam-less, yes. (and if that was a word). To regard something is to take it into consideration. Regardless means don't take it into consideration. Irregardless, if it was a word, would be a double negation of regard, so it would not mean what people want it to mean.

Because of the parallels with other "ir" words like irrespective or irrelevent, people think irregardless means like a negation of regard, like irrelevent is a negation of relevant. The problem is, they are not paying attention to the "less" ending.

 

Is there no possibility of the R420 to support PS3, I have a feeling we gonna see this way earlier in games then some think, because I read it isnt that different from ps2 to code but add some nice (performance due more efficient coding?) improvents.

Far Cry patch is suggesting to add it.

Would it visual-wise be a great difference compared to ps2?

 

from what I understand PS 3.0's major improvements are in efificiency. However, by not developing PS 3.0 hardware you have more time to focus on PS 2.0 speed. So, which is going to be better? I think that question will be the Big One we will have for the next few months.

 

DC, I ain't got no knowledge of whatchu talkin' 'bout.

Please excuse the further pop culture references (Ali and Diff'rent Strokes) serving as winking questioning of goode olde proper English. Wait, I think there's a socially-accepted way of conveying that on the internet. What was it again? Oh, right: .

Man, are we still in 3D Tech and Hardware?

 

well its all about game engines is it not? and what game engine is a a 2.0 power house? then what game is a 3.0 power house? yes in the next few months we will have the answer....(nv3x= doom, r3xx= hf2, nv4x=hf2+, r420=doom+ can u say shadows). and yes doom isnt a 3.0 game duh.

 

.... and FarCry......

Improved shader speed (up to two times faster) for NVidia Geforce FX cards on very high settings
- Fixed fog bug with NVidia drivers
- Added support for NVidia NV40 chipset
- Fixed realtime shadows from blended trees
- Made improvements to lighting shaders on very high settings
- Fixed bug with lake reflections
- Added support for PS3.0 shader profile

From the 1.1 patch readme

 

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