R400/R500 guessing game

Discussion in 'Pre-release GPU Speculation' started by T2k, Jan 28, 2003.

  1. T2k

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    Let me ask you: w/ all my respect, Rev, do you seriously think Rampage could do considerably hit on the market (I mean, in terms of performance) in THESE DAYS against R9700/9800 or GFFX? :shock:

    Rampage would have been big BANG in 2000, probably in 1st half of 2001 too - but never came out.
    Now it's 2 years old story, Rev. Design changed, playground changed, everything changed.
    RIP.
     
  2. T2k

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    :D LOL
     
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    A 16-chip Rampage would beat the hell out of a GFFX :D
    And anyway, the Rampage had better FSAA quality than the GFFX will ever have :p

    More seriously however, the Rampage would have no chance against a GFFX, performance-wise.

    I think it was leaked by someone that Rampage performance, with non final silicon & drivers, was only slightly slower than a Ti4600 in most cases!

    So, I'd guess shipping chips/drivers would be on par with a Ti4600.
    It would have been a winner even if it was released in H2 2001, not only in 2000 or in H1 2001, if that information is correction.


    Uttar
     
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    I think the rampage gets more and more powerfull everytime someone mentions it
     
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    It becomes more powerful the more worshippers it has. :D

    All hail Rampage!
     
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    I'm just glad I don't drink milk often...
     
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    I don't recall anything in the Spectre and/or Fear rumoured specs that indicated anything higher than PS/VS1.1, with probably some sort of pre-sampled displacement mapping (my own guestimate) in the latter.

    Add to that Overbright Lighting, effectively 13bits/RGBA. Anything I'm missing? Mojo was of course a totally different story.

    For 4x sample MSAA for sure, due to it's capability for 4xRGMS. I doubt it would have been "fillrate free" though at least on Spectre.

    Anyway does anyone have a clue more or less how their adaptive anisotropic algorithm worked? If there are any relations to the FX "balanced" mode, I don't think I'm that much interested after all... :roll:
     
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    At least someone thought it was funny :lol:
     
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    Hehe, I can already imagine an army crying "All hail Rampage!" in the streets of Baghdad... That would be funny! :)

    The following is a joke:
    Anyone wanna petition with me to nVidia, so that they'd compare the NV40 specs to Rampage instead of current competition?
    Oh, sure, it would look humilate the Rampage, but the goal is to get the real specs...


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    Well i'm sure the Rampage was good on paper, on paper I'm sure Rampage and Fear totally destroyed Nvidia and would make 3dfx billions!
    Intense self-deception is the beginning of the end of company's required to be innovative. I hope the GF FX debacle is enough to snap Nvidia out of their own brand of self-deception. Actually scratch that I hope they trip up one more time with the Nv35, I think they still deserve one more.
     
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    Did we get some new update on R400?
     
  13. Neutrality

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    Where did the MuFu thread about R390, R420 and R500 go?

    Said too much?


    -Neutrality-
     
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    Yes. :oops:

    MuFu.
     
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    If you're not under NDA how could they force you to take it down?
     
  16. demalion

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    Well, some people don't have to be "forced" to do things, and might do them out of courtesy, and I'd place MuFu and the moderators here in that camp. Whether MuFu or someone else removed the thread, I'd guess courtesy..."being asked" instead of "being forced". Hmm...maybe not even "being asked" would be required, though I think it likely the case this time.
     
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    Well, anyways, thankyou Mufu for trying to give us some inside info. 8)
     
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    Indeed, its always nice to get some inside info that no one else has. 8)

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    Inside info is good for the soul. :|
     
  20. Deflection

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    Hmm, I saw the post briefly and it didn't seem to say much more than is commonly speculated on. I guess one of the code names could be seen as suprising, but why bother removing the post if it's this well known around the industry already and the poster didn't break an NDA?
     
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