Post your NV40 preview predictions

It won't cost them any yield since if the chip doesn't make it at 16 pipes it may at 12 or 8 unless the chip totally fails. This doesn't effect yields at all. ATI designed the chip to be 16 pipes anyways, why not take advantage of those that make it, ATI just being smart again.

 

Wow.. you guys are harsh...

Ok.. the Nv40 totally SUCKS spoiled Eggs and it will lose more benchmarks than Janet Jackson loses Clothes on national TV. Its IQ will suck, and be inferior to ATi's LAST GENERATION products. It weighs 22 pounds per square inch, runs at 2,000 degrees, and will Blow out the inner ear of the average person in under 2.2 seconds. Nvidia will prop the lame duck up with Bully tactics, Lies, Evil PR practices, Driver hacks and *special agreements* with specific developers to cripple everyone elses hardware on their software.

Whew.. I feel so much better now

 

So if The Inq had posted the ATI 16 pipes specs before the nvidia 16 pipes specs, that means NVIDIA response was a panic one ?

 

Ok Baron Smarty Pants... theoretically speaking of course, how would you deal with the drastic change in available bandwidth per pipe NV is facing? Does going X1 TMU somehow improve efficiency? Do they have amazing new compression tech? Much higher than leaked mem speed? Magic Dawn pixie dust?

Caps

And do not be coy! We have ways of making you talk. ie.: find an electrical socket near your current location. Stick a fork in till you decide to co-operate.

edit: added reference since people are posting so darn fast

 

Easy....encourage review sites to benchmark in 16 bit mode.

 

16 pipes was having yield problem which is not unexpected with
that many transistors on low-k. So 12 pipes was their original plan but
when they saw 16 pipe specs, they release 16 parts.

 

Yeah, I knew that 3dfx tech would be good for something.

 

Hmnm, I just thought of something. . . What if the yields of the R420 with 16 pipes is much higher then expected? I actually think that will be the case since ATI seems more conservative. Will that mean those extra capable chips being stuck in X800 Pro's (I think so ) or prices across the line go down?

 

Zen is smoking the glass pipe.

 

Ahhh this whole launch thing is just hilarious...nothing but mind games

 

I about spit my Coke all over my screen reading that. Please put a warning up before posting stuff like that.

 

I predict that the Nv40 will fast as hell with awesome new features for developers. It will be proclaimed as the return of the king of all video cards (at least for a couple of weeks or so), especially by Nvidia friendly sites. Ps3.0 will be the big new feature that we absolutely must have even though a couple generations of cards will come and go before Ps 3.0 is actually useable in games.

Futuremark will once again be relevant to Nvidia and will now feature tests for PS3.0 at least as tech demos. Cheats will slowly disappear and or reappear in direct proportion to how far ahead or behind Nvidia is in benchmarks.

All this will come at a cost though. Around $500 for the card and $60 or more for the required power supply, possibly even more for larger cases and more fans.

I also predict that the heat and noise of the card will turn off many including computer companies (Dell etc) who will have a big problem getting this thing installed even in their high end computers.

Lastly I will predict that I am going to wait for ATI's line up before I even think about this one. From what I've seen so far, as long as ATI can stay in the ballpark speedwise they may have won this round again with a cooler more customer oriented card.

Oh, and of course the ATI/Nvidia battle will rage on and on until one company goes out of business or a third company comes along to knock one of them out of the battle.

 

A thousand apologies good sir. Too much coke is bad for you anyway.

Caps

 

That sounds like conjecture. I believe they gave themselves targets to reach and options depending on a number of factors (a.k.a ram available, ram speeds, yields, performance of part etc.) The 16 pipe chip was designed and already tested and may have been pushed up in the release date due to competition in the high end. Still it is the same chip in the end and everything was in place to support it. Panic - - I think not. Actually I think Nvidia is the one panicking now with their slower 400 mhz beast compared to a 500mhz R420 with overdrive (hmmm, 550mhz )

 

Does the trend continue for scalable VPUs from ATI

 

dual r 420s on a card ?
that be sweet

 

Now, that would need dual molex's!

(It'd also be pretty stupid).

 

I seriousally doubt it would happen but, I'm waiting to see the reaction from the internet community and review sites from the Nv40. If they feel this approach is acceptable...why not...double the AA modes

 

Huh....there would be buyers though

 

Multiple cards in PCI express slots should be possible with 32 pipes in action . Only thing is that you will probably need two 16x slots .