Politics and Ethics of Technology Reinstatement

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Should we reinstate the Politics and Ethics of Technology sub-forum?

Poll closed Mar 31, 2017.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Don't care

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  1. Rys

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    @green.pixel asked why we retired the Politics and Ethics of Technology sub-forum during the forum reorganisation in 2015. It was retired for two fairly weak reasons: low traffic (often totally fine) and it didn't fit the new structure we devised (fine at the time, maybe not any more now the dust has settled from the reorg).

    So, how does the forum populace feel about reinstating it? It would cover the political and ethical angle for all technology spaces we care about (PC, console, mobile, etc), so we wouldn't be creating a new sub-forum for each top-level category.

    There's a poll above, so please vote to give us an idea about what to do.
     
  2. eloyc

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    Yes. Also, maybe a place where we could discuss politics, religion, etc., not necessarily related to technology? As far as I know, the General discussion sub-forum doesn't allow that (even though I've seen some policital threads, IIRC). Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  3. ToTTenTranz

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    There is..

    https://forum.beyond3d.com/forums/religion-politics-socioeconomic-climate.15/

    I thought the post threshold to see that sub-forum was at 100 posts or something, but somehow you can't access?
     
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  5. Rys

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    I manually added you to the group that can access RPSC. For the life of me, I can't remember how you add yourself to it to let others know. Will investigate.
     
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  6. eloyc

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    Thank you!
     
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  7. Davros

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    This would be to discuss the Politics and Ethics of Technology not the Politics and Ethics of Technology companies or both
     
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    youve answered yes to 2 mutually opposing questions
     
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  10. Rys

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    Yes. We can only figure out it's a question if you use a question mark and split the choices up so they're clear.
     
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    Yes, and you asked it as 1 question: True or Not True. The optimizer will always optimize it away as true.
     
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    Credit to @Dave Baumann from like 10 years ago or something. :p
     
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    In answer to the question, "why is the forum gone?" I ask, "why do you want it back?" What's the purpose of extracting that conversation from the existing fora? Does it pollute the tech fora and require moving away? Or is that discussion best served in a specialist forum with particular guidelines? Or do such matters require their own record for future easy reference?

    If it has such little traffic, I feel it's redundant. Legal stuff is fairly rare and the corporate shenanigans fit fine in with the usual business talk, while ethical considerations suit the RSPCA forum. Unless someone can present an example of a subject that doesn't fit in with the other fora, I don't really see the point. Not that I'm opposed - I don't really care. Actually, I do a bit. I'd feel sorry for a forum with only a handful of threads and barely any visitors. I'm not comfortable bringing a new forum into the world if it's not going to have a decent quality of existence; I think that's irresponsible.
     
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  14. Arwin

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    I never realized it was there, and never realized that it is gone. So I guess that's my answer ... ;)
     
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    There was a reason we created it in the first place. Anyone remember why that was?
     
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    For a place to split and create threads when discussions eventually devolved into the ethical nature of why companies acted a certain way.

    btw @Rys you can use standard HTML in XF news posts to link directly to the thread in question.
     
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    Why do we need to split those discussion into a subfora? If nVidia/AMD/MS/Sony/Zenimaz etc. activities start derailing a thread, why isn't it a suitable place to spawn them off into the Hardware/Console market discussion fora?
     
  18. green.pixel

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    Don't vote Brexit EthicsOfTechnologyExit folks. :p

    Personally, I want to make a thread with in-depth discussion in mind about certain diverse but overlapping topics that thematically belong to the former Ethics subfora. If it's not revived, I will put in, I don't know, General discussion or PC industry. If it's in RSPC, I think few people will see it and participate compared to the regular forums. So I think my reasons best correspond to your last two questions.

    Btw, while we are mentioning RSPC, there was an indicator in members' profiles about who is a member of the group that access it, why has it been removed?
     
  19. Shifty Geezer

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    If it's in a subforum no-one visits, less than RSPCA, it'll get even less attention.
    Stigma.



    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    :lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2:
     
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