Playstation 5 [PS5] [Release Holiday 2020]

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  1. BRiT

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    Right. I'm not sure if I'd expand either one at all and just end up juggling games off my external drives to the internal NVMEs.
     
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    It is. It's just Sony invested R&D in a different area to graphics. Both companies made a choice. Consumers will decide which is more appealing.
     
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    XBSX has "Dedicated 3D Audio"
     
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    We'll also have to factor in what the price is for XB's storage card. They may very well end up selling it pretty cheap where they have incentive to want customers have the room to buy/install more games.
     
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    I think the biggest concern is that high clock on the GPU. Heat management? Reliability?
     
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    There is space on the graph for PS3 compatibility!!!
     
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    Xbox does have a dedicated 3D audio processor, I just don't think it was discussed in the DF article. They mentioned more to come so that will probably be in the next article.
     
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    36 CU seems to be very tied to backwards compat.
     
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    Almost all 100 most played PS4 games playable at launch.
     
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    So "almost all" of the top PS4/Pro games (by playtime) will be playable on PS5 at launch. That's not great.

    I bet fucking Knack works. :yep2:
     
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    Has nothing to do with power, a would've got one at 1.85 or 1.8. I'm not going to get their overclocked pos that'll be nothing but problems. I'll skip that thank you. You enjoy though.
     
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    Sorry, meant to reply to another post.
     
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    From DF ...

    Introducing boost for PlayStation 5
    It's really important to clarify the PlayStation 5's use of variable frequencies. It's called 'boost' but it should not be compared with similarly named technologies found in smartphones, or even PC components like CPUs and GPUs. There, peak performance is tied directly to thermal headroom, so in higher temperature environments, gaming frame-rates can be lower - sometimes a lot lower. This is entirely at odds with expectations from a console, where we expect all machines to deliver the exact same performance. To be abundantly clear from the outset, PlayStation 5 is not boosting clocks in this way. According to Sony, all PS5 consoles process the same workloads with the same performance level in any environment, no matter what the ambient temperature may be.

    So how does boost work in this case? Put simply, the PlayStation 5 is given a set power budget tied to the thermal limits of the cooling assembly. "It's a completely different paradigm," says Cerny. "Rather than running at constant frequency and letting the power vary based on the workload, we run at essentially constant power and let the frequency vary based on the workload."

    An internal monitor analyses workloads on both CPU and GPU and adjusts frequencies to match. While it's true that every piece of silicon has slightly different temperature and power characteristics, the monitor bases its determinations on the behaviour of what Cerny calls a 'model SoC' (system on chip) - a standard reference point for every PlayStation 5 that will be produced.​
     
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    RT based on AMD PC GPUs.
     
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    Cerny with their ESRAM moment now. I guess when frequency drops to 2.0GHz or lower, I'll take 52CUs at 1.82GHz.
     
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    A rising clock speeds all floats
     
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    The SSD thing seems weird.

    -Evidently it's faster than Series X? Cool, but will it Matter? Will anyone notice? Will it be one second vs 2 second load times? Will DF analyze load time differences noticeably? Will it be a huge edge in system throughput? Yet to be determined.

    -825 is weird and just adds to the whole "It's like the Series X but less" idea. Big round numbers are surprisingly important to dumb consumer masses IMO.

    -Will consumers be confused on how adding storage will work? I kind of am. I guess you just have to get any 3rd party SSD certified by Sony, when they come available. It could become a pricing edge for Sony over time since it's non proprietary, but we have to wait and see.
     
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    Weird, I don't see 8 TFLOPs anywhere. Nor 9.2TFLOPs.

    We must be seeing a different specs table. Maybe it's a localization issue with Eurogamer.
     
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    I like that approach to managing power and heat.
     
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    ? How is that different than typical boost clocks?
     
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