NWN2: Drooool

Oh yes, but I'm simply saying why it wasn't going to have anything to do with the main plot of the first two: they ran out of levels.

 

Come to daddy...

I think the OC for NWN was lame but the two expansions were good.
First one was ok and the second one rocked hard, played it 6 times though with different classes/ alignment.
KOTOR 1 was jawsome from start to finish and KOTOR 2 was good untill the end since they didnt finish it.

 

And before the expansion came out there were the community made modules and hak-paks. There are some great modules for NWN with interesting Henchmen with good interaction and backgrounds, hak-paks that gave you far greater control of them etc. Anybody who disses NWN based purely on the OC actually misses the point of what Bioware created.

Of course it helps I have 3-4 friends who I PnP'd D&D with at school who are happy to CRPG NWN with me.

 

What is the difference between NWN2 and Oblivion?

Sorry, but I know nothing about this genre of games.

 

One thing, while BG1/2 use AD&D 2nd ed, ToEE uses D&D 3rd ed. rules. In 3rd ed. ruleset, youcan delay your action until some trigger event happens (in your example, that's wizard's bulls strength).. I do not think it is fair to criticize BG for that.

But, the other feature -assigning multiple targets for multi-attacks- would be really nice.

 

I hope they are allowed to polish the game before it's pushed out the door.

 

Graphics look worse than crap but I hope gameplay is fun.

 

Reality and Kruno rarely meet.

 

Fortunately Obsidian are not new at making RPGs and they're very active among the NWN community to get feedback

Alot more info over at http://pc.ign.com/articles/666/666403p1.html and you can visit http://www.nwn2news.net/modules/news/

 

That sounds pretty decent.

Mind you, I can't find myself agreeing with a lot of comments in this thread.

NWN sucked at facilitating D&D in the single player sense. First off, the engine limitations were a joke. You can't see very far, which means all ranged combat magical and non is out the window, NWN is an intensely melee oriented game because of it. Terrain makes little to no difference, height advantage? Level loading is just silly, Dungeon Siege got around it and, well for a freakin' RPG, you can't have long loading screens, especially when your maps can't be that big otherwise the loading screens will be too long.

I just hope they really paid attention to those limitations, graphics aren't going to be what makes or breaks this game.

 

You obviously haven't played pen and paper D&D, there long range is 100-200 feet.

 

Where original NWN really shines (imho) is the co-op. I've played through all the official campaigns with couple of my friends and they've all been blast. We actually thought that the last campaign, HoTU, was best from the pack, even thought it didn't have official support for MP.

About the combat system, I kinda like how it feels in NWN. But I even like NWN's graphics so there must be something wrong about me. But if I should pick one combat system from any CRPG, I would choose the system used in Betrayl at Krondot the best.

 

I know that and have played many good modules.
I "diss" them because people who get paid zip made better modules than them atleast before HOTU was out.
That had a great story and great dialog choices and the end battle was super.
It's really a great way to "benchmark" a char build imo.

But KOTOR 1 and 2 blew NWN HOTU out of the water with all the choices you can make and the story.
Both super games expect for the 2nd one since they weren't allowed to finish it (time constraints).
Influences and how your char appearances changes with your aliment is awesome.

 

Will you tell me what's so special about the graphics?
I really don't know what's special about them.
They look like every other game I've played with some higher polycounts and that's all.