Nvidia shows signs .....

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  1. Voxilla

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    In the end it's all due to Facebook and the Russians. Let's stop with politics here and discuss graphics stuff, this is below our level. :)
     
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    Heard that multiple times every day this week. Heard 1 hour later of how it all fell apart. Chaos.
    Maybe this time it wont fall apart?

    Though is the US Stock Market closed for Thanksgiving Holiday?
     
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    Surprising to know this is headline news also in the US.
    Enjoy the turkey!
     
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    E-Commerce Giants Select NVIDIA Jetson AGX Xavier for Next-Gen Delivery Robots
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    https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2018/11/20/delivery-robots-jetson-agx-xavier/
     
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    Jon Peddie: Quarter-to-quarter graphics board shipments decreased by 19.2% and decreased by 36.1% year-to-year.

    The market shares for the desktop discrete GPU suppliers shifted in the quarter, Nvidia increased market share from last quarter, it also increased share from the same quarter last year.
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    “The third quarter is normally the strongest from the previous quarter. This quarter it was down -19.2% from the last quarter,” said Dr. Jon Peddie, President of JPR. “That is below the ten-year average of 14.9% and was caused by too much inventory in the channel due to a misjudgment on the strength of the crypto-mining demand.”
    https://www.jonpeddie.com/store/add-in-board-report
     
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    Erm, that's conflicting compared to what the Market Watch report from them said - it said discrete graphics was down 16 % from last year?
     
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    They're always conflicting. I'm not really sure what they're doing or what data they take for each report, but the two reports never really fit together totally.
     
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    Are the "last quarter" and "last year" columns reversed or something? Because this seems like a huge QoQ change that somehow amounts to a small YoY change. I mean, it's possible, but odd.
     
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    AMD stopped shipping a huge amount of GPUs into the channel in Q3. Unlike nVidia who will stop shipping "midrange" Pascal in Q4. So the huge swing from Q-Q makes totally sense.
     
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    NVIDIA PhysX Engine Now is Open-Source

    https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-physx-engine-now-is-open-source.html
     
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    The phrase in the first quote sounds disgustingly over the top.

    But besides PR being PR Central, no more binaries means at least that they are heading towards abandoning PhysX. Perhaps they already did in practice (when was it updated last?) and this announcement just marks the milestone
     
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    New PhysX engine ...
    Dec 3, 2018
     
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    More like shifting focuses, PhysX is an important part of GameWorks and they are constantly updating it.with featured and performance enhancements, it went from PhysX to ApeX to FleX .. But they just have a more attractive and broad feature now, RTX and DLSS. So traditional GPU PhysX on the CUDA cores is old news, even the Tensor Cores can accelerate PhysX now. So it makes sense to release the grip on it and focus on the new things.

    They already did the same to HairWorks by the way, previously it worked through CUDA but now DirectCompute, same for HBAO+ and PCSS+.
     
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    Good for them.
    The actual news was, in my humble opinion, that the library's future is now more uncertain than before. So I've tried to state that.

    I leave the 'but actually that's great news !11' and 'it's for our own good ..' to the PR people and aparently to some users here.

    I mean, open surce-ing it would really be great if it ultimately yields more IHVs supporting it. But we know how unlikely that is from ever happening so..
     
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    They are releasing a new version of it (PhysX 4) later this month, with a focus on some professional applications, I was just trying to point out that they are far from abandoning it.

    https://wccftech.com/nvidia-physx-goes-open-source-4-0/
     
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    Yeah sure, that kinda contradicts their site which states no more binaries available for download. Wonder if that's a mistake/missunderstanding, rather?

    OTOH This PhysiX for professionals is kinda of a different thing to the original PhysX.
    ( Software equivalent of a Vega FE ? ;) :runaway: )
     
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    Nvidia showcases an AI-rendered, interactive virtual world
    December 3, 2018


    https://www.techspot.com/news/77681-nvidia-showcases-ai-rendered-interactive-virtual-world.html
     
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    my favorite part is that girl dancing Gangnam style.
     
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    OK, more details on the matter, it seems the APEX part of the PhysX can not be GPU accelerated under the open source license, no details was given regarding FleX too.

    Also seems NVIDIA has discovered other uses of PhysX in major fields, hence the move to open source it.

    https://www.extremetech.com/computing/281697-nvidia-open-sources-physx-with-a-few-caveats-attached
     
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    No GPU-acceleration kinda makes the whole thing pointless.
     
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