NVIDIA G80 specifications leaked?

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  1. Shtal

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    It will be hard for me to believe Nvidia could move from 90nm to 80nm in 3 months timeframe such as complex chip they have.
     
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    The Inq is not a reliable source of information, sorry to burst your bubble :)
    The possible bus width is not related to the process technology, it's related to the actual chip size. As such, a smaller process such as 80nm will make it harder to get a 512-bit bus, let alone a 384-bit one! For a 512-bit bus on a 80nm chip, I'd guestimate you'd need at least 750-800M transistors. I think it's time to stop dreaming and jump back on the reality wagon ;)

    Uttar
     
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    How did you come to a solid conclusion that the Inq is not a reliable source?
    Do you have any solid proof or evidence that this is a fact?

    I' am just asking, I' am not trying to give you hard-time.
    All I did; what I read from their website, plus I don't care who it is - as long the information is accurate.
     
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    Well, let's just say they aren't known for their spot on rumors, and much more so for their sensationalistic journalism that, in the end, doesn't have THAT much of a relationship with reality. Their information is not always wrong, but it's a tad ridiculous to take it as anything more than mostly unreliable reporting by people who have little understanding of the actual technology behind the whole damn thing. Sometimes, it's more than that, but much of the time, it simply isn't.

    Uttar
     
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    Thanks,

    best reagrds,

    Shtal...

    It is also possibility that the first version of the R600 based on 80nm core could be 256-bit bus using high speed GDDR4; then second version which is planned by ATI on 65nm technology could be 512-bit bus.
     
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    I tend to believe that the 65nm version of both G80 and R600 will be substancially different.
    Different enough to warrant a new name/generation (as in 9800 -> X800, or 6800 -> 7800).
    That in spite of being basically the same architecture of their predecessors.

    And, if so, going 65nm (a full node change) means that more money will be poured into it, giving credit to being marketed as a "new generation".

    I think both 90nm and 80nm will be here for at least a year, even in the high-end (i could be wrong though, TSMC's 65nm process is an unknown variable at this point).
     
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    Going to 65nm would actually make it harder to go to 512 bit as the chip would be smaller, hence less space for the increased number of pins required to double the bus width.
     
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    Unless they throw more transistors at it and the chip keeps the same size.
     
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    Speaking of size, Charlie seems to be very confident on R600.

    http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35096

    If G80 is 90nm, it's obvious that it will be bigger than R600 at 80nm (duh...), but comparing two different chips, one of them which still doesn't exist in finished form, and proclaiming the latter as the new speed king ?

    Boy, are they AMD spokesmen now... :lol:
     
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    I have to see it before I believed. [Don't care who is bigger as long it is more Efficient] a.)cost b.)power c.)performance d.)features
     
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    I hope it has better AF and does away with or at least refines the current implementation. I am sure it will have great performance numbers and I do not need any more superfluous FPS. Use that power to give me bleeding edge image quality. Heck I'd even settle for old school Geforce 3|4 AF patterns.
     
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    mobo

    :runaway: When are we going to be able to check out some mobos for this card? Thanks
     
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    Welcome...

    Wouldn't any PCI-E motherboard (uh.. 'mobo' :???: ) do? :wink:
     
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    Thanks, was not sure if any would work.
     
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