Nvidia G71 - rumours, questions and whatnot

Cant help it but i get the feeling nVidia is bulling with everyone.
That its on Cebit also, i dont know..
Im starting to think everyone that has expected that we will se the "real" next gen part early are right, not march early but earlier than expected.

 

Well, personally, I think that if they're going to launch in relation to CeBIT, then they're going to do it during the show itself.

 

So, if we make a presumption about G73 based on NV42 + Minor Tweak .Maybe more or less the NV40 transistor number. There is a Die Photo spotted in GZeasy

 

If I were waiting on a nVidia product it would be the G80 because that is rumored to have an AF mode like ATi does currently, virtually angle independent. It is also supposed be capable of the same level of HDR with AA. Naturally, it should be faster than the current cards.

Now if ATi makes a SS AA mode available on the R600 that behaves somewhat like nVidia's 8xS things could get very interesting. As is you must own Crossfire(aka two cards) and run Crossfire 10x AA to get something akin to 8xS.

Yes I know adpative AA does supersampling on transparent textures when set to high quality.

 

So week 31 was rev A4 in the VR Zone shot, and now week 52 is rev A2 in this one? Errr. . .

 

Previous shot was actually 6600GT and now this is the real G73...

 

It does supersampling when set to lower quality, too. It just doesn't supersample as many times.

It's nVidia that allows you an alternative to supersampling for alpha textures, an alpha coverage mask.

 

Nvidia to launch 90nm GeForce 7900 GPUs on March 9

From Digitimes

 

Nice! Thanks.

Hmm! *Usually* this kind of thing means that the performance is less. As if the performance is better you can sell at the same price point as the competitor and still get the love for being "a better value".

Edit: Tho I also wouldn't be surprised if ATI has been planning to cut prices when G71 shows up anyway, and is just "making hay" now, much as NV did with G70 initial pricing in the summer.

 

unless its just a rehash of the g70 features

 

That's bogus, the pricings change on weekly basis and noone knows the real pricing yet. It's prolly the pricing planned for the launch in march, where they assume that the competition will get cheaper as well until then.

 

What I heard is NV will PR their G71 PS infrastructure is as same as R580. But I dont get what Kind of Feature unless it is either Dual-issue ALU amount to 48 PS(But it is hard to believe ) or 24X3 ( impossible)

 

Right, so if it means anything, then it's talking about pricing to board vendors. And if it is indeed a 24-pipeline higher-clocked part, then it's entirely possible that it'll be cheaper to them than the X1900.

 

I've always thought that the G71 was going to be nothing more than a G70 at .09. With faster core and memory, it should compete speedwise very well. However, I expect it will have no more featurewise than the G70...cept Purevideo2. How odd for nVidia to be behind on features. And it should be a real cash cow for nVidia. ATi will, of course, have no recourse but to cut prices to compete, at the loss of profits. The real winner here will be the consumer, as it should be.

Of course, R590 at .08 may be just what the doctor ordered.

 

Well, but cost and pricing, while not totally independant, aren't totally dependant either. We know nV loves high margins, as Jen-Hsun has been crowing about them for some time. And, btw, will probably do so again about 5.5 hrs from now.

The gpu could cost them $.05 to make, and if it was kicking R580's butt performance-wise, I still can't think why they'd price it any less than R580. *I* wouldn't.

Still, it was an odd thot to toss into that piece. Even an AIB source that doesn't have ATI connections knows as well as we do that the pricing of X1900 is liable to change when G71 hits.

 

What I'm interested in is either 36PS or 24PS version of unqualified R580. Since 7800GT 's price has been flatten than we can imagine(from 450 usd to right now 300~275 usd Average price)Maybe it's time to see what 299usd product can meet our expectation : start from "20PS" rather than "16PS"

 

Maybe yields are so phenomenal that they have to price it lower in order to ship all they can make But in the real world, they are probably just matching R580's inevitable price drops and/or performance bracket.

 

I've always puit myself in the cheaper faster 6 quad camp after hearing 700Mhz and this news does not make me want to change my viewpoint. Cheaper being relative of course

I'm interested to see what dual and quad (2x2 rather than 4x1) 7900GT's would cost in the shops. Could you perhaps get a dual gpu 7900GT for £399 for instance ? Double those up and you have 80 pipes for £800.

Roll up, roll up £10 per pipe, get em 'ere luv...

Ok, so that's a pipedream. ( terrible pun, sorry )

 

That's exactly what they had planned a few months ago. They told people that they planned to cut the prices of the X1900XT by $50 in March. At that time the X1900XT was still targeted at $599 with a March pricecut to $549. I think we'll still see the pricedrops eventhough the MRSPs are already lower (so XT @ $499, XTX @ $599) and the supposed introduction of R590 at $279.