Nvidia "Community Outreach"

I can't say I blame people on the forum for being part of AES. I am disappointed with Nvidia however. Can't they understand that people don't like being manipulated behind their backs.

I have to give the ATI guys a lot of credit here because we know who they are and they aren't trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

 

Opinion no, but action - yes. In other words banning someone for this would be utterly pointless for many reasons, some of which are outlined in my post. Now you might not like what what is being done, but now you know about some of it, you can freely ignore those posters and their contributions if you feel so inclined.

 

Not to single out this individual, but what smarmy rot! The whole point of the subterfuge was to make the "******" more presentable, more palatable, yes - more reasonable. Of course they were encouraged to temper their diatribe & fed their lines via tech briefs... Transparently obvious.

Who's the joke on, again...?

 

Surely we should focus on the root of the promblem first? i.e. The normal posters.

geo, I hereby banish thee!

 

At least one member outed (not at this site) has been actively promoting any and all nvidia products. While denigrating any and all ati products. I would like to see a list of all those involved and the different personalities they use, before passing judgement on the program. Think it is obvious that none of the three here are the issue (outside of lack of disclosure).

 

Honestly I don't know what to say, Geo. The conspiracy theorists are on the run.
So, let me sum this up, Nvidia paid a Viral Marketing campaign that forces people to be reasonable level headed posters, because... Err... Ok I don't get the "because" yet.
Especially when you know that Rollo is a part of the program...

 

Oh shit, does that mean I have to disapear now?

Right now I'm giving AEG the benefit of the doubt that Rollo is the exception and not the rule, but time will tell.

 

Because they're not as obvious. The gorillas in the mist need to be camouflaged !!

I'm dissappointed to know Ail was involved.

 

In your opinion thats wrong, not in mine. Sure I can ignore the posters who are out of the closet now. That doesnt change the fact that they are still doing it. Personally, I think the "community" should take a stance, and not put up with this sort of tactic. And they should either stop being part of the program, or forfeit their posting rights.

One of their catagories that AEG offers is "CRISIS MANAGEMENT". And in that, here is what they say; "Strategic counsel and implementation: Fires, Misinformation, Rumors, Leaks". As you hopefully know, spreading misinformation is not a good thing, and does not help about someone looking for an informed decision on which card to buy. I dont know why some people are backing this type of tactic, but I sure dont. Would I still buy an NV card? Sure, but not because certain people try and push them on me.

 

Actually,

I did receive some free hardware from ATI some time ago.
It was three years ago when they launched the R300. It was just a freebie (radeon 9700 pro)
if we assisted to one of their conference (lots of other people there, all influent in their own community).

I'm sure was inclined to talk about ATI in good light after that (and I did).

Does that count ?

 

As I understand things, I don't think you can really say the two schemes are similar at all - there is surely a marked difference between being a member of a beta software testing programme and the AEG stuff. After all, beta software is released free of charge once (most!) of the bugs are ironed out and everyone benefits. Normal everyday users obviously don't receive free hardware as do participants in the AEG scheme. Everyone involved in the AEG stuff receives free hardware I believe?

I can't say I'm surprised that Chalnoth or Chris are involved in the AEG scheme. Their biases/preferences have long been apparent. Ailuros was a bit more of a surprise to me but thinking back that it's obvious he's had more of an interest in NVidia stuff in recent times. I'd assumed he was losing some of his interest in TBDRs as nothing much is going on with them in the PC market at present! Hopefully he'll continue to fly the flag for TBDRs though!

All 3 of these AEG participants named above have more to offer to the community to me in terms of knowledge and experience so I suppose I can't complain too loudly. It all just seems rather disingenuous to me. Disappointing that it's taken so long to find out about it.

 

You know that for a fact, or you'd made up your mind despite of what's being said?

 

Why? AEG is good at what they do and there is no way Rollo flew under the radar. This is fairly standard crisis management to control the release of information and to put in a few positives with each negative you are forced to disclose. Rollo had already been outed by John and now we get to see the positive side. I would guess that this is the tip of the iceberg and not a nice thing for the online community - as probably many of the bigger companies do the same thing.

 

Only four posters belong to this program? Sorry but I don't believe it. What I wish to know is which ratio of Rollos to ChrisRays are in this AEG program, that will clarify a lot about it's nature.

 

How do you want to know? AEG can't publish informations without the members approval.

 

I would like to know it, but as you clarify it isn't possible.

 

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Don't be confused (if you are), I'm not morally outraged or surprised or anything. Being reasonable has nothing to do with lack of cynicism or understanding of what various campaigns entail. I also have no problem with people accepting products & expounding on them (non-disclosure included). However, I draw the line at post-event apologies, backslapping cliques, smarmy rot & ludicrous censorship...

BTW (Vysez, is it?), I thought s_h_i_l_l was common parlance here? I bet I can get away with I'm a naughty boy, though... I've been here quite some time & have never typed an expletive before. There's a first time for everything...