NVIDIA Collaborates with Sony for Playstation 3

well we will see whether revolution will finally be able to beat evolution. If Xenon gets a headstart PS3 games will have to look amazingly good to have the visual "ground breaking" accolades. Other than that it will be - great, but we've seen it all already.

 

I also question this mentality that the headstart is key, It sure wasn't for Dreamcast.

As I've stated before Why XBox? I mean, there's Halo and then there's its graphics and then there's Halo. What happens when Sony launches it's superior brand with superior marketing and a significantly superior platform against the Xbox. Why XBox then?

 

and that is true, this is why the ensuing fight will be really interesting - but never underestimate the evil Satan of sofware with it's cunning plans

 

I wonder if Bungie will be able to make Halo as originally intended now--an MMOFPS with RPG elements (I think?).

 

Not sure if people are assuming this is something new, but maybe this deal has been in the works for some time? Maybe one reason why Nvidia didn't need Microsoft's Xbox2???

Sony is much like Cisco - it is their market to lose. And somehow I do not think Sony is willing to give up the lead they hold. Not today, nor tomorrow.

 

Well, something about this that really caught my eye is that NVIDIA will help with the development tools. Anyone that has worked on PS2 game development will tell you that the tools absolutely suck. Better games could be produced if there were better tools. Not saying that the games they have for the PS2 are bad, but getting the technology up and running using the Sony tools is a giant pain in the ass.

Microsoft provided excellent tools for the X-Box, and you can say that is one of the reasons why so many really nice looking games were released at the get-go (plus since it is so tightly meshed with DX8.0...). But the development tools for the X-Box are seriously the best in the industry. This could very well be another significant reason why Sony is using NVIDIA for both GPU and development tools. This aspect of the Playstation needed addressed a long time ago, and it appears that this time Sony isn't doing things by halves.

 

The beauty of competition.

 

Yep, two years. From the press release:

 

The average Xbox game is a ps2 port lol.

 

Cg2 anyone?

 

LIve in your world PLAY IN NVDIAs

 

On Nvidia Stock, it seems like they got a good boost from this announcement this morning. It jumped pretty high. But like a super bounce ball the first bounce was the highest, and its been coming back down with small jumps all day. But the markets are doing bad today, so might have not been one of the best days to announce this on, stock wise.

BTW, i thought the Cell thing was finalized to a degree and pretty much headed into production for a few of the companies that are partnered with Sony on this venture. I believe i read an article saying that some manufacturers are going to be bringing out electronics based on this by early summer 2005. Mainly TV's and stuff ?

Also this shouldn't be a surprise, many people have been saying since late 2002, Nvidia would do best by a partnership with Sony. But this late in the game what is it exactly, if anyone cares to speculate, that Nvidia is bringing to the table for Sony ?

 

PS3 has been in development for 4-5 years. the CELL for 4 to 4.5 years. Nvidia working with Sony for 2 or 2+ years.

I hope to be impressed with the fruits of Sony-Toshiba-IBM-Nvidia combined labors in March and at E3 in May.

 

Thats the case MS is really going to have to sell to the east asians markets if it expects to not be a DISTANT 2nd place again. Sony wont have its giant library to fall back on this time though. so that might be why xbox *shrugs*

 

Looks Like NVIDIA liked to keep a few things from the public or for that matter from ATI for a while (like the Intel Chipset wich is almost ready) and now this graphics chip with Sony and the playstation. Everything is nicely planned by NVIDIA.

I hope that they keep the backwards compatibility with the PS1 & PS2, and I think there is a bigger chance to that than that between the XboX and the XboX2. Simply because Sony made those graphic chips so they could give any information needed to get that backwards compatibility working. Unlike with Xbox where NVIDIA just doesn't want to share it's secrets (wich is very understandable). Sony can only win with that since they have nothing to lose in the graphics business.

Greetz

 

Here's my $.02

t seems hardly a coincidence that the rumors about NV50/48's scrapping surfaced a few days ago. I believe the two years mentioned in the press release is the time it took to iron out a contract with Sony and seeing that R500 (and R520/R600) would kick their asses nVidia agreed to terms with Sony to supply them a GPU in return for eventually using Cell technology in the discrete graphics card market.

And I still think PS3 will get its ass kicked by NextBox, seeing as, apparently, the GPUs for both will be PC based (and if CELL was "THE SHIT" Sony wouldn't have needed nVidia's help, so I'm betting that it's not "THE SHIT" but just "SHIT") and MS is well ahead of Sony in terms of release date, by the time PS3 is out in the market they may have already lost the battle.

And before anyone argues that PS3 will be an automatic success because PS2 sold well, I remind them what happened to SEGA and Nintendo *rolls eyes*

 

What API will PS3 use?

Perhaps OpenGL?

Seems M$ wins no matter which nextgen system sells best in the long run as the PlayStation brand will continue to grow towards M$'s camp in both hardware & software.

Some developers may investigate solutions on how to use DirectX w/ PS3 or its offspring due to middlewares, technological advances, porting acceleration ( device targeting ), etc....

I've also heard Sony's spokespeople say that PS3 WILL BE much easier to code for -- I hope they don't do something drastic like make Renderware the default API =^_~=

 

PS3 vs XB2 sales

The success of PS3 will not rely on its technical specification or who is first to market.

After all, it is well known both PS1 & PS2 achieved their success primarily through innovative marketing & distribution models i.e. PS1's Purchase-For-Resale Model.

Sony will hopefully introduce some new distribution model which may make it near impossible for M$ to keep pace with < this round >

Hey but isn't this a 12 round fight w/ a guerilla?

 

I suppose we can all just assume it's graphics that nVidia is doing for Sony, but does anyone have any guesses as to what level of graphics? NV4x? NV50?

 

If it's NV40 based then they are totally bust compared to R500 which incorporates design features from R600 (NV50+ competitor..) Someone correct me in case I'm wrong..