nVidia 169.04 -Crysis Rendering bug gives 7% performance boost?

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  1. Recall

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  2. Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.

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    <shrug> It's what Nvidia does. They aggressively pursue benchmark wins for marketing purposes. Next month they'll be a new driver to win some other benchmark, this "unintentional bug" will be quietly fixed, and no one will come back to month old reviews and mention that Nvidia hardware is significantly slower now it's rendering properly.
     
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    Your theory would be correct if nVIDIA's part was slower than the competition. However the thing is that the 8800GT is already faster than the 2900XT without these drivers.

    Not to mention that the year old G80 and the new G92 are performing much better at DX10 titles than the R600 which was supposedly turn the performance tables around in DX10.

    Adding insult to injury huh? :roll:
     
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    It's being discussed in the G92 reviews thread as well.
     
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    More like nVidia is looking down the road a couple of weeks at the RV670's launch. ;)

    BTW - I'll comment! I HATE HOW SLOW EB IS!!!! :evil:
     
  6. Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.

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    Doesn't matter. What if ATI brought out "magic drivers" for Crysis that did the same? What if AMD had organised a "Crysis Day" with pre-release RV670 hardware in the boxes? Reacting to that a month later is no good for Nvidia if the benchmarks and reviews have been and gone.

    Nvidia is ruthless about this kind of thing, especially on a triple-A title. They don't miss a trick, they don't give an inch, they work hard for this in order that the public perception is that they are the best, the fastest, etc. They are not going to sit on their laurels and get complacent on a massive showcase title like Crysis. That's just not how Nvidia do things.
     
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    I recently noticed playing bioshock over the weekend with this new set, that some water shader puddle effects were updating at what seemed like 30fps instead of 60fps like the rest of the game. Not sure if it's related, but this driver set did give me a noticeable performance boost over the older sets in bioshock, interesting because the game uses water shaders heavily too.
     
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    Kyle has his own spin...

    Thank you baby jebus! :D
     
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    Regardless of the cheat/bug issue, I would say that the designers of the game should be able to expect it will be rendered as intended.
     
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    I would have been surprised if he'd said anything other than to support Nvidia.
     
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    Well, if what he said was true, then ATI sure is keeping busy playing a pre-release TWIMTBP demo from a game with Nvidia's hardware and beta drivers, and then blasting out emails... :roll:

    Why didn't it come up before from an independent party ? The demo is out for a week now.
     
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    DX10 is not really favorable for R600. Not to mention the 8800GT soundly defeats the 2900XT at almost all benchmarks for both DX9/DX10.

    Is RV670 magically saving the day by out performing the R600 and goes onto beat the GT in Crysis with magic drivers?

    Beats me.
     
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    SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

    That's still a secret! :shock:
     
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    How do we know that Crysis hasn't tuned the number of times it renders/updates the reflections in the non-beta/final version?
     
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    Kyle doesn't dispute that the Nvidia drivers are not rendering properly to gain benchmark scores. They just said "it makes no difference to us, it might make a difference to you".

    Of course it "makes no difference in gameplay", but it does make a difference in visuals, which is the point of the criticism. Replacing all the enemies with 3d models of a gun-toting Miss Piggy wouldn't change the gameplay, but you wouldn't consider it ideal visually.

    Both ATI and Nvidia are quick to point out the flaws of the other side to all the press who would otherwise miss these things. Most review sites are not technically hot, although they can confirm these things after it's been handed to them on a plate.
     
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    Presumably on non-nvidia hardware or without those "special" Crysis drivers, it renders correctly..?
     
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    Who knows what final tunings Crysis put in place after this beta demo was released?
     
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    :lol:
     
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    In DX_9 yes, HD 2900 XT wins in some games and is very close in others:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/geforce_8800_gt/

    Actually what is DX_10? Same image quality as DX_9. Lots of bugs. Worse performance then DX_9.
    Briliant :)
     
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