BenSkywalker
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NPD August 2002
- Thread starter BenSkywalker
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No, wait, those numbers can't be right. If they were, it would imply that in the US the GameCube is more successful with children than it is with adults. 
Actually, the big news to me is well the non-EA football titles did on the Xbox:
PS2 Football market
EA 90%
Sega 10%
Xbox Football market
EA 57%
Sega 23%
MS 20%
Gamecube Football market
EA 85%
Sega 15%
There must be some reason for EA to do much more poorly (in terms of market share) on the Xbox than on the PS2 or GameCube.)
It's not just the existance of a third football title -- because even Sega did much better (relatively) on the Xbox than on the other platforms.
My guess is that the lack of Xbox Live! support hurt EA on Xbox.
Actually, the big news to me is well the non-EA football titles did on the Xbox:
PS2 Football market
EA 90%
Sega 10%
Xbox Football market
EA 57%
Sega 23%
MS 20%
Gamecube Football market
EA 85%
Sega 15%
There must be some reason for EA to do much more poorly (in terms of market share) on the Xbox than on the PS2 or GameCube.)
It's not just the existance of a third football title -- because even Sega did much better (relatively) on the Xbox than on the other platforms.
My guess is that the lack of Xbox Live! support hurt EA on Xbox.
To someone who thinks that Mario is for children and sport is for adults that may make sense. In reality however Mario Sunshine is just as popular with adults as it is with children and sport is popular specifically with males not any particular age of males. Very young children may be less likely to buy sports games. But then very young children are also more likely to own something less complex then Mario Sunshine, its not the easiest of games for a young child, something more mindless like Crash Bandicoot is better for that purpose.
If every age group can enjoy a game equally (as in the game has something for every age group) then it is not for kids. Not that I expect this to convince you (nothing ever will apparently). Obviously to you anything you don't think is 'cool' is for kids, kind of a childish attitude IMO.
Swiss2 said:
Yes, I agree. Probobly 80-90% of the XBox's base as of now consists of hardcore gamers/PC games/other disenfranchised groups. If XBox ever reaches to the level PS2 is corrently at, it'll do so by attractive the average Joe - the person who buys what his friends have, buys what he hears is good, buys on what he's heard of - they'll buy Madden.
Johnny Awesome
Veteran
Yes. Hopefully the legions of rubes who bought PS2s will get a clue.
Man Sega releasing NFL2k3 about two weeks after the other two machines may have hurt that one. It should have been higher than 7,000 on the Cube.
I really thought SMS would have been the top seller in Aug. Guess I underestimated football season huh? I'd would have thought Dead To Rights would have moved a few more than 100,000. That game was pimped big time. Commerdcials galore. Net ads, etc. It got good reviews did'nt it?
After looking at the sales I could see why EA would just stay on the PS2 only. but it's a testament to them for sticking with the other systems..PC included.
I really thought SMS would have been the top seller in Aug. Guess I underestimated football season huh? I'd would have thought Dead To Rights would have moved a few more than 100,000. That game was pimped big time. Commerdcials galore. Net ads, etc. It got good reviews did'nt it?
After looking at the sales I could see why EA would just stay on the PS2 only. but it's a testament to them for sticking with the other systems..PC included.
marconelly!
Veteran
Sure, it's too bad. Maybe if they'd put out some better product, they wouldn't meet with such disappointment.
I rented NFL2K3 for Xbox and man - "disappointed" wasn't the word for how I felt about that game.
Everything about it seemed sub-par to me - the graphics, the menus, the gameplay - even the much-balleyhooed commentary.
Sega has a LONG way to go if they want to catch up with EA. But in my opinion, they could start by reworking the basics.
Kolgar
I rented NFL2K3 for Xbox and man - "disappointed" wasn't the word for how I felt about that game.
Everything about it seemed sub-par to me - the graphics, the menus, the gameplay - even the much-balleyhooed commentary.
Sega has a LONG way to go if they want to catch up with EA. But in my opinion, they could start by reworking the basics.
Kolgar
I think the comentary and graphics are excellent, I think it has the best graphics of all the football games, although I am basing that on commercials and NCAA (on X-Box) and I also think 2k has the best controls. Although there are two types of people in the world, 2K people and Madden people.
Ok, Madden is a pretty drab football game that has played the same for years. The control scheme is a tried and true system that works well. It clearly could use refinement, but it's not that bad. It isn't as good as the 2k series though, and that's pretty obvious especially when considering the playability and overall fun of each game.
We'll see how the basketball games fare. If Live sells dramatically better than Nba2k3, then there is something wrong with the industry in not wanting to play the best game from that particular sports lineup.
SEGA has its work cut out for it, maybe a marketing blitz could get the job done.
We'll see how the basketball games fare. If Live sells dramatically better than Nba2k3, then there is something wrong with the industry in not wanting to play the best game from that particular sports lineup.
SEGA has its work cut out for it, maybe a marketing blitz could get the job done.
