Nintendo GOing Forward.
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Nintendo reports third consecutive annual loss:
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/7/5689878/nintendo-earnings-fy-2013
Here's how the company is planning to fix this:
So taking advantage of the Wii U GamePad wasn't a focus until now? They think NFC is a system seller, and paying again for 8 year-old DS titles to play in the gamepad will boost console purchases?
They have no idea what they're doing, do they?
And we have to keep wondering how the CEO of a multinational company that posts its third consecutive year of losses gets to keep his job.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/7/5689878/nintendo-earnings-fy-2013
Here's how the company is planning to fix this:
So taking advantage of the Wii U GamePad wasn't a focus until now? They think NFC is a system seller, and paying again for 8 year-old DS titles to play in the gamepad will boost console purchases?
They have no idea what they're doing, do they?
And we have to keep wondering how the CEO of a multinational company that posts its third consecutive year of losses gets to keep his job.
But Iwata is cool and funny!
Keep him but fire the people who decided to have Backward Compatibility with the Wii. It was the main mistake they made with the Wii U hardware, I just hope those people are neither Iwata nor Miyamoto.
And replace the expensive gimmicky tablet controller with the ideal Nintendo controller: a cheap 2006 Wii pro-controller with additional analog triggers.
Given their forecast of 3.6m Wii U, basically they've given up on Wii U.
And the question "what do they do next" seems increasingly to be answered with "nothing". At least console/core gamer wise.
They dont appear to really be planning a next console of any significance, imo. Maybe just branching into non gaming areas. Where I dont see much success awaiting them, either.
They forecast 3.6M wuus sold, but there'd have to be at least ten quarters in a year - obviously not possible - for them to hit it, considering how many units they sold in the last quarter.
So seems to me they're still off in la-la land, spinning imaginary yarns of delusion and wishful thinking.
This console's deader than dogmeat, and lucky us for it. The shit hardware they launched back in 2012 is an insult to every serious console gamer there ever was.
So seems to me they're still off in la-la land, spinning imaginary yarns of delusion and wishful thinking.
This console's deader than dogmeat, and lucky us for it. The shit hardware they launched back in 2012 is an insult to every serious console gamer there ever was.
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Apparently, Nintendo spent $100m in Q4 on some sort of tech acquisition.
http://twitter.com/gibbogame/statuses/464044105010397184
http://www.gonintendo.com/s/227800-nintendo-spends-100-million-on-mystery-acquisition
Probably for their QoL platform, I would guess.
http://twitter.com/gibbogame/statuses/464044105010397184
http://www.gonintendo.com/s/227800-nintendo-spends-100-million-on-mystery-acquisition
Probably for their QoL platform, I would guess.
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Indeed, the far worse scenario would be for the Wii U to be selling like hotcakes...
Like with the Wii, whose runaway success can probably shoulder some of the blame for the relatively underpowered consoles we got this gen.
What's QoL ?
"Quality of Life" Though i can only guess it will be some type of health services aimed at the elderly, most likely due to Japan's ageing population.
Some mysterious health based product that Nintendo has mooted as a future direction. Nobody knows what it would be. They said it was non-wearable, I think. Who knows if "it" even exists as a discrete product.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...ew-consoles-for-emerging-markets-in-2015.html
Low-cost consoles being developed for emerging markets.
Because the crappy hardware that goes into their consoles apparently isn't crappy enough, so they're going to spend money developing something even crappier.
I honestly don't know how much lower they can get than what they have in the 2DS. What could be lower than two 266MHz ARM11 and a DX7/8 class GPU?
Unless they achieve an enormous boost of intelligence and decide to go with an off-the-shelf SoC from Allwinner, Rockchips or some equivalent..
Naah it's Nintendo, they'll think of something really crappy for the handheld and home console, for sure.
For home console, they'll probably make something resembling a Zeebo or an Ouya, but they'll get the Nintendo-made equivalent of a Snapdragon 200 because their plan will be to sell mostly Nintendo DS ports.
Everyone directly involved in the hardware and marketing decisions that led to the Wii U should either be fired or change seats. Iwata and Miyamoto aren't exceptions.
They're both partially responsible for Nintendo's first-ever annual losses, second-ever annual losses and third-ever annual losses. And they all happened in a row.
They can't be leaders in a big corporation because they can't be seen as leading examples anymore. They're the ones who are making Nintendo sink.
And I'm not saying fire Miyamoto. I'm saying let him do his game development stuff but for fuck's sake keep him 10 kilometers away from any kind of processing hardware development.
Low-cost consoles being developed for emerging markets.
Because the crappy hardware that goes into their consoles apparently isn't crappy enough, so they're going to spend money developing something even crappier.
I honestly don't know how much lower they can get than what they have in the 2DS. What could be lower than two 266MHz ARM11 and a DX7/8 class GPU?
Unless they achieve an enormous boost of intelligence and decide to go with an off-the-shelf SoC from Allwinner, Rockchips or some equivalent..
Naah it's Nintendo, they'll think of something really crappy for the handheld and home console, for sure.
For home console, they'll probably make something resembling a Zeebo or an Ouya, but they'll get the Nintendo-made equivalent of a Snapdragon 200 because their plan will be to sell mostly Nintendo DS ports.
Everyone directly involved in the hardware and marketing decisions that led to the Wii U should either be fired or change seats. Iwata and Miyamoto aren't exceptions.
They're both partially responsible for Nintendo's first-ever annual losses, second-ever annual losses and third-ever annual losses. And they all happened in a row.
They can't be leaders in a big corporation because they can't be seen as leading examples anymore. They're the ones who are making Nintendo sink.
And I'm not saying fire Miyamoto. I'm saying let him do his game development stuff but for fuck's sake keep him 10 kilometers away from any kind of processing hardware development.
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I think the Wii's unnatural success and sudden sales drop of the Wii caught Nintendo in a trap. They felt they had to come up with something after the Wii's sales nosedive. They had to release a successor sooner to regenerate sales
Meanwhile the competition continued to enjoy healthy sales so they could afford to wait.
Releasing early meant the console would be relatively underpowered when the PS4 and Xbox next would get released.
They certainly couldnt compete head to head techwise against the PS4 and the XBnext by releasing early, nor by releasing later something powerful. They tried in the past with the GC and lost market share. They had to come up with something sooner that would compensate for the lower performance and that would continue to maintain the interest of the Wii owners.
Of course I dont see how they could pull off a Wii again. It is impossible. I am sure they were thinking about controllerless gaming too but MS beat them to it.
I dont see how they could have waited to go head to head with the other 2 without losing market share and not abandon their previous customer demographics either.
Why? Because they left no legacy of new franchises and mainstream experiences to carry over the mainstream excitement to a next gen "traditional" kind of console. These are things that Sony and MS have taken over along with the appropriate demographics. All this Nintendo were too busy making "casual" games for the Wii, too busy with highlighting Nintendo, too busy doing the same old tired franchises and not at all busy building third party relationships that would generate support and new/unique IPs. They did nothing of what MS and Sony were doing last gen (and before that) to carry the traditional gamer, IPs and the support to the new gen.
We think of Nintendo and we still think the same games we were thinking decades ago.
For some reason they saw theirselves as the ultimate card that makes all other aspects of the business irrelevant.
Without the proper legacy of fans and developer relationships they cant support a console against the other 2 giants.
Whatever route they took in the console space from that point would not do them a favor.
They finally hit a wall with their narrowmindedness and persistence in sticking with tradition rather than moving along with the industry
They probably would have been better off though if they went back to the basics and produced a powerful console and ditched the Wiiblet for cost reasons
They'd have to sell around 2 million consoles in Q4 to make up for the lack of sales in the other quarters. Does anyone actually see a 600% sales increase as realistic...?
Two games aren't going to convince a whole lot of people to buy a wuu. Most who are interested in smash and kart undoubtedly have a wuu already.
I feel like at some point Nintendo may have though that the vitality sensor was to push another tenth of million wii in the hands of customers, the truth could be that "bad".
They did a pretty bad job at supporting the Wii, they were too absorbed trying to think about a cheap new gadget for the system.
Instead they should have worked on services for kids and adults/casuals and more games. They failed on all fronts.
I think they are pretty cornered now as they should have swallowed the bitter pill and EOL the WiiU as they did with the virtuaboy. With a proper restructuring of the company and good alliance with content and services providers they could have tried to come back to the market with something better fast.
Now we speak 2016 with mostly no market presence in the mean time. I don't see either significant R&D efforts on the OS or server infrastructure /anything relevant...
At this point, they may know they drove them self in a corner or real close. Any meaningful move implies a healthy amount of risks. At the same time I think they drive with both their eyes focus on the rear view mirror, aka their huge pile of cash.
The more I think the more I believe that Nintendo salvation has nothing to do with games or hardware.
The best move could be to preserve the cash and negociate a good sale of the company to a big group.
The is the only way I can think for the people that have a stake in the company to not see their shares get chipped away.
The brand is still strong, at this pace 2 years from now with literally nothing in the middle... I don't know.
They did a pretty bad job at supporting the Wii, they were too absorbed trying to think about a cheap new gadget for the system.
Instead they should have worked on services for kids and adults/casuals and more games. They failed on all fronts.
I think they are pretty cornered now as they should have swallowed the bitter pill and EOL the WiiU as they did with the virtuaboy. With a proper restructuring of the company and good alliance with content and services providers they could have tried to come back to the market with something better fast.
Now we speak 2016 with mostly no market presence in the mean time. I don't see either significant R&D efforts on the OS or server infrastructure /anything relevant...
At this point, they may know they drove them self in a corner or real close. Any meaningful move implies a healthy amount of risks. At the same time I think they drive with both their eyes focus on the rear view mirror, aka their huge pile of cash.
The more I think the more I believe that Nintendo salvation has nothing to do with games or hardware.
The best move could be to preserve the cash and negociate a good sale of the company to a big group.
The is the only way I can think for the people that have a stake in the company to not see their shares get chipped away.
The brand is still strong, at this pace 2 years from now with literally nothing in the middle... I don't know.
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I don't see how they can fight cheap PC rig with "free" (illegal) games on one side and device as FireTV, a revamped google TV, an Apple TV, a Windows TV, etc. on the other with free games too (both legal and illegal).
They won't be able to fight on price or specs imo.
A standard consoles addressing the working poor and the failing middle class in a lot of occidental countries may be a better bet, though 2016 is quite far... I expect OS war to have shrink their odds of success by that time.
