News & Rumours: Playstation 4/ Orbis *spin*

They don't need to buffer the whole
thing, maybe only a few seconds worth while simultaneously writing it all to the HDD.

 

Well. I'm back to january expectation level (4GB) as that is exactly what we (gamers) are getting.


For the other people without laptops or tablets at home, today is a homerun for them.

 

So the conclusion is that PS4 uses very expensive GDDR5 but gives less RAM to game developers than what XBOX 1 gives (4.5 GB vs 5 GB)?

 

With the caveat that there is a 1GB allottment of space shared by apps and games.. So 4.5-5.5GB for gaming.

So 4.5GB + potential caching bonuses I guess.

 

My position has always been that whatever the PS4 OS reservation is there must be a good reason so I am not saying that much RAM for OS is bad.
I am just puzzled.

 

3.5GB for OS a total waste of GDDR5....Extremeley disapointed here. I'm only need a videogame machine not another pc,DVR watheaver.. ( I'm going to up my pc ..its better).

 

GDDR5 is known for its bandwidth, not capacity--which is why the motivation for it was sufficient at 4 or 8 GB.
My question now is what Sony was planning on doing prior to there being 8 GB to carve from.

 

I wonder how the whole thing was supposed to work when it was still 4gb. So 512mb OS, but no shared memory or space reserved for apps? Or I guess the 512mb already included app space along with the OS itself?

 

But a Just Add Water CEO clearly said, I quote:

"Sony has "already ring-fenced the system memory away from the game memory, so there's none of this business that we had with PS3 of having to share memories.
When you press the PlayStation button on a PS3 game, you get the basic XMB up [but] to do anything you have to quit the game, because of the memory for it. With PS4 we don't have that because the system memory is already ring-fenced for itself."

 

I don't quite understand the context here. What does this have to do with the present discussion?

 

I don't think the statement is at odds with having a 1GB shared memory space for paging/caching of some sort.

 

He said that when Sony announced 8GB.

 

Assuming that guy is on the level and we're interpreting it correctly, then what does this mean? That the OS is legitimately 3.5GB? Or just 2.5GB?

Because DF very clearly indicates that 4.5GB is the baseline amount being allotted to devs.

"Game Console" ~ Doesn't even have 70% of its memory dedicated to the task.

Edit: second point was beaten. I agree with the aforementioned.. I don't see how what he was stating comes into conflict with this latest news.

 

This is a great story, because I love seeing the hardcore gamers face the crushing reality that you can no longer sell a streamlined game console to hardcore gamers and expect to run a profitable business. The pure game console is dead. It was dying last gen and now it's done. Gamers aren't as important as they think they are. We've had mobile phones with over 1GB of RAM for a while, and now they have 2GB. The reality is this consoles have to last for 5+ years, in which time they need to keep pace in terms of OS features with other smart devices (tablets, smartphones, media boxes, smart tvs).

 

I cancelled my PS4 preorder. When they reduce the reserve, I´ll buy it. Multitasking a console is silly, beyond useless. When I´m gaming, I just game.

I really hope we´re in for a really short console cycle.

 

This decision is really puzzling, why on earth would they bump the ram last minute only to effectively reserve almost all of it??? Frankly its troubling in the sense that it suggest their overall design is not as well thought out as it should be at this late state in the game.

Either they don't know how much memory they will need for apps or they realized rather late that what they had wouldn't fit - regardless it suggest poor planning/understanding of what they want to do.