"New" Nintendo Switch

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  1. Goodtwin

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    https://www.resetera.com/threads/sc...otentially-a-new-dock-for-added-power.356782/

    A member posted this link in the Switch 2 thread, but I feel like this new information leaked alludes to a new Switch model that is very much in line with Nintendo upgrades for its handhelds in the past. The DSi and New 3DS being the most recent examples. When Nintendo and Nivida moved the Tegra X1 from the 20nm process to the 16nm FinFet process, the reduction in power consumption were huge. Nintendo did nothing at that time for performance, and improved energy consumption and thermals went entirely to extending battery life and allowing the Switch Lite to get away with using a smaller battery while still maintaining over 3 hours of battery life.

    The Tegra X1 Mariko iteration was always a logical candidate for a "New" Switch. Nintendo doesnt shoot for huge improvements. The DSi and New 3DS had improved performance, but nothing like the PS4 compared to the PS4 Pro. A Switch Pro model was probably always unlikely, where as the "New" Switch is right there in Nintendo's playbook. The new X1 has a max GPU clock speed of 1.26Ghz, about a 20% improvement over the standard X1. Nintendo will likely still shy away from using the max clock speed just like they did with the original, but a 20-25% increase is a reasonable estimate. The three ARM A57 cores could see the most substantial benefit. We have seen from hacked Nintendo Switch units that bumping the CPU cores clock speed by just a few hundred Mhz can substantially improvement framerates in many games that struggle to stick to the target. My guestimate would be around 1.5Ghz.

    Memory improvements are available. I believe LPDDR5 is an option, but its still fairly expensive. The more likely option would be to go with the fastest LPDDR4X available, and this yields a 25% increase in memory bandwidth compared to the original Switch models.

    An improved screen could mean anything. Ive seen speculation that it will be OLED, but I kind of doubt it. I have been fine with the quality of the Switch screen but I am aware its far from high end. There is plenty of room to go with an improved LCD.
     
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    Yeah, it seems reasonable. I was all set for a new base console, I was expecting it. But it's Nintendo. As much as the "New 3DS" was a totally forgotten bland lump that passed without notice even among dedicated gamers in much of the world, I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to do the exact same thing again.

    But hey that's the worst case scenario. Most likely case scenario if this is true is that it's mostly unexciting update that doesn't get a lot of attention. After all Switch buyers don't seem to crossover into hardcore "Graphics and tech" types a whole lot, so a somewhat middling update that's not even up to PS4 Pro type upgrades probably isn't going to get many excited.

    Not that I can blame Nintendo wholly. Given the GPU targets for something like "A console that is to the PS5/XS what the Switch was to the PS4/ONE" I don't see anything commercially available to Nintendo that could do that at the moment.
     
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    When Nintendo releases the "New" models, I would suspect that many of the sales go to people who already own a previous model. A lot of current Switch gamers would be up for buying an upgraded model, even if those upgrades are somewhat modest. In no way would this new Switch unit be aimed at closing the gap in performance with the other consoles on the market, that's not really feasible even if they wanted to do it. I believe the best performing mobile chip on the market right now just barely surpasses the Xbox One performance. The true successor to Switch is likely 3-4 years away. The New Switch would just be a premium model for those interested in upgrading, I do not believe there would be any exclusive software developed for it.
     
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    If the Switch successor is 4 years away, it would mean for the Switch to be 8 years old by the time it's replaced.
    Nintendo never went over 6 years between console generations.
     
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    Do you know Nintendo fans? If there are people out there that paid real money for "3D Mario Quick And Dirty Emulators and ROMs found on the Web 30 years Anniversery Edition", man, they are willing to buy anything. I swear that I saw dozens of people on youtube say things like "man, the game sucks, like, of course I'm gonna buy it, duh, but it does suck"

    Nintendo could release a Switch cow poo edition, which is actually just a plastic bag with cow poo. Put a triforce sticker in there somewhere, and they'd do unboxing videos with tears in their eyes and a smile to their face.

    The internet made me realize that Nintendo's lazyness is a direct consequence of their own fans' complacent purchasing behaviour.
     
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    The DS released in 2004 and the 3DS released in 2011.
     
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    November 2004 to March 2011. 6 years and 4 months is still 6 years.
    And it was for their handheld console that at the time was running in parallel with their home console.
    With only one line of consoles, there should be more pressure to decrease the time between console launches, not less.
     
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    I hope you are right, because I will be ready for new hardware sooner than later, but the only pressure Nintendo will feel is the pressure of decreasing sales. The Switch has been selling extremely well, so until that starts to slow down, Nintendo wont be in a hurry to get a new console to market. Switch turns 4 years old in March this year. March of 2023 would be the earliest I could see the successor being released. Between a New Nintendo Switch model and the viability for price cuts of the existing models, Switch should continue to sell well for years to come.
     
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