N5 to be PowerPC based

An Alpha EV8 would have been a customized Alpha EV45 under that logic.

 

If mr. Irving Wladawsky-Berger was quoted correctly, and knew what he was talking about, the Cell from the patent is history.

 

It's mainly looking like people shouldn't treat Reuters "info compilations" with literal interpretations, as it's hard to follow what refers to who and where. Waiting on the people who make the technology to make official releases about their technology = smartur.

 

I agree with the post above..
The bit about IBM doing a processor for Nintendo is a comment from Reuter and not a press-release from IBM themselves..

 

http://news.com.com/2100-7337_3-5107422.html?tag=st_lh

http://news.com.com/2100-7337_3-5107422.html?tag=st_lh

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-233954.html?tag=nl


Could it be that Cell really = Blue Gene derived!? KK might have saw what IBM is R&D in 2000, and think it be cool to use it for his parallel dreams. So it is also PPC based too...?

 

well, the idea behind Cell has always been based on ideas from the Blue Gene project.... the architecture might be different but the ideas are pretty equal...

 

http://www.cems.uwe.ac.uk/~xzhang/PDF/Industry/nair.pdf

Seen the pdf above? some written work on SoC multicpu SMP whacaca, based on SIA(Silicon Industry Association or something..) hopey hopes for future cpus. Maybe now my sig may taketh a clearer meaning. ..? :?






"I WIN!"

 

Now the question is can the competition match CELL???

 

..it could also be "will Cell match the competition?"

 

no the question is, "who is the real winner here?".

....dibs on IBM

 

Not that Sony wanted something else....

 

hehe that's what i've been saying all along... they're gonna get so much cash from the whole Console market, since they are involved in some way or another in the making of each of the next gen consoles..... whoever wins, IBM will be LOADED. quite clever if you think about it... one day they could very well be in the position to make their own hardware (maybe a next next next gen newcomer?)....

and we were worrying about Sony or MS becoming a monopoly...

 

Cell Smell....more marketing yeay say. Stuff like 65nm/SoC/whacaca have been identified by tech dudes around, dont see the revolutiion. The thing is SCEI are the main ones making the most noise, tho it be help by their strategical position, that might just do it to market the idea.

BUT importantly, PS3 3D to outrun the competition..? HmmmMmm.. I saya, probably the end result 3D will lookie ~around~ there. In dA end, all talkie talks are just hohohaha as always. I thinketh....

 

*cringe*

 

It will be interesting to see who is technically *superior* this time....since all 3 should launch at the same time.

 

presumably not Nintendo (since I'm assuming that taking massive losses as a preemtive tactic dosn't gel well).

if we really want to see which is more technically accomplished we might have to wait till late in there' respective lifecycles. where there strengths are pretty much well exploited.

 

Well many have speculated that the PUs shown on the Sony patent would be PPC cores. It's that mass production quote Deadmeat posted that has me thrown for a loop. In order for mass production to benefit the cost of Blue Gene/L, wouldn't the PPC derivatives in both BG/L and PS3 have to be identical? This certainly belies speculation that the PPC core inside the PEs are stripped down.

I've been lurking here for a while and I have to say this is clearly the most headway Deadmeat has made in finding a chink in Sony's patent; still the most telling and official information on Cell/PS3. So while I see the patent as eminently more reliable than a random spattering of quotes on the internet, IBM is clearly under the impression that whatever's inside the Blue Gene/L will be mass produced as a gaming product.

 

they will be different. or at least Ps3 will be completely different from the other 2. still it seems the ideas are similar (unified shaders, as in DX10)...

fanbois will always find things to nitpick, be it memory size/type to processor names to shape of controller...

if they come out at the same time they will all look similar enough to allow multiplatform games to be ported without much of a loss in quality...

it's still to be seen how PS3 does graphics though.... if Sony wants to go crazy and keep the "trillions of polys at the expense of something else" then PS3 games will look different, a lot different than the others. Better? thats all down to taste...

ZOE2 is the most beautiful thing i've seen rendered this generation, and it was because of its millions of particles and polygons flying around at any one time... it didn't have super hi res textures but did anyone really notice??

 

o f c o u r s e i t i s j u s t h o h o h a h a !
What exactly are you criticising?
Are you saying Sony should just shut the f*uck up about their technological visions, and release PS3 and all their other products without any advance marketing or hype? Better still if they just stop all research and just do what they've done until now, or just license tecnology from others so you wouldn't need to hear anything that might raise your fears?

 

Hype worked for PS2, Chap. It's one of Sony's marketing tools, and it's goddamn brilliant if you ask me. However, the paper Cell/PS3 can't be your run of the mill console if people like Deadmeat claim it's impossible, while other less vehement posters are still propounding conservative estimates around the 256Gflop range.

Two(3 actually) questions:
1)Where does one pick up such nonsensical patois?
and
2)You don't think a Tflop console with 32 computational units each capable of 5 times the math of the PS2 is revolutionary? Or you believe CELL isn't revolutionary enough to deliver on the hype?