Motherboards.org uses 53.03 benching 3dm2k3?!?

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  1. digitalwanderer

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    Uh oh, someone tell ben6 that he made the vein bulge.

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    Too late, I found him over at nVnews already. (Near the bottom of the first page, top of the second)
     
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    He doesn't seem to be putting up much of a fight. Honest reviewers suck! :lol:

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    None other than our Benjamin Sun of this forum. I guess he never got the guidelines from Futuremark :roll:

    Ummm I think we also need to look at the history of reviews from that site, there is something wrong with this chart, can't quite place my finger on it:

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    <laughs> That looks suspiciously like a 2001 result there... :p
     
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    ROFLMFAO~~~~

    Ok, that is freaking hilarious!!!

    Be nice to Ben though, I like him...I'm pretty sure it was an honest mistake. (I'm still holding him accountable, just in a nice way. ;) )
     
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    That chart was strange. It in fact took a long time for me to make sure that something like that never happened again. I made a mistake on the driver set on this review so kill me already. ;)
     
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    I won't be killing you, you're mistake was just a symptom....I'd rather fix the problem.

    Yo Worm! Do you think that maybe Futuremark isn't doing enough to get the word out about which drivers are and are not acceptable when beta members of Futuremark don't even know 'em?

    I think the problem is that FM is letting nVidia slide and it's just the start of another slippery slope. :(
     
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    I wonder if FM realizes what tools they are.
     
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    Ben has been great to our community, what the hell have you ever done for it :roll:
     
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    I am not quite sure what to make of this chart. The TI-4600 I am going to assume was a 3DMark 2001 result as there is no way it would get that high. But there are some other really screwy things in there too like the TI-4200's that come within 300 points of the 9700 Pro. Now even if we are talking about the label being wrong and it is indeed 3DMark 2001 shouldn't there be a big difference between the two? Going to have to agree with DoomTrooper here...there is something strange about that graph and I can't quite figure it out. Nothing seems to be what you would expect in there. Also if that is indeed 3DMark 2003 how the hell did the RADEON 9000 come so close to the 9700 Pro? I'm confused... :roll:

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    to tell you the truth, I still don't have a satisfactory explanation from either the benchmarker (who wasn't me) or the editor, even though my name was on the review and the text of the review was mine. My gut feeling is that the benchmarker wrote 3dmark 2001 scores in the 2003 excel spreadsheet by mistake.
     
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    Certainly seems like it, since my friend's 4600 gets almost exactly 10k
     
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    There has to be more to it than that. A ti4200 is scoring less than 1/2 of what a ti4600 is scoring? A 4600 should perform about 20% better than a 4200. And there is no way a 4200 was getting 4k in 3dmark03.

    Perhaps they were all 3dmark01 and some cards were tested with AA/AF and at different resolutions.
     
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    Maybe somebody was drunk. Occam's Razor.
     
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    Oh sure, sayeth the mod from the nVidia forum trying to deflect attention away from the company his site relies on. :roll:















































    ;) :p
     
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    Yeah...well this is one reason why, a few months ago, I was hoping that Futuremark would release new patches every time nVidia released a new driver.

    Here, Ben made an honest mistake. But the basis behind the mistake was exactly what I was figuring on happening: every other test is done with the "latest" drivers, and it's a burden on the reviewers to have to swap drivers "just" to test 3DMark '03.

    I can see lots of other reviewers who just "couldn't be bothered", and would purposely just test with nVidia's latest, rather than the "approved" drivers.

    To be sure, this puts Futuremark in a tough spot: having to patch 3DMark every time nVidia releases a new driver. But I think it's worth it.
     
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    LOL And I know what you're getting at invoking Occam. If that wasn't my new personal definition of the word irony. . . .
     
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    Oh, and I was being a wee-bit of a dick (who, me? naaahh) when I made that post on NVNews this morning. Hey, I'm not a morning person so sue me. Anyways, the review isn't worthless, but the most of the benchmark scores sure as hell are, at least in my less-than-humble opinion.

    Oh, and post 1,000. Hercules! Hercules!

    P.S. Man, you tend to regress when you spend your afternoon trying to entertain a 6-month-old.
     
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