More Sony first-party PlayStation games coming to PC

I'm sticking to my cynical view that this is Sony decided to port (or allow others to port) some older PS4 exclusive games to PC, with no promise of PS5 games following, on the basis that these games will have sequels that won't get ported ad that some folks may be so invested they'll buy Sony hardware (PS5) then spend within Sony's ecosystem.

What is the debate? Microsoft already have the infrastructure. What heavy costs they have invested it to facilitate Game Pass, it's already there. This makes literally no sense if you're suggesting Microsoft invested heavily in infrastructure for Game Pass then only for losses (publisher cuts) to ramp up the more people use it!?! Huh!?!

 

I mean it's debatable that MS incurs additional costs as there are more subscribers. It doesn't work like that. They negotiate a fee with publishers to host the game on gamepass for a flat fee for a period of time. This is contractual.
The only other costs they have to pay is for running the service (which would go up with more subscribers) but we already agreed that's been covered.

So I disagree that MS is paying more with each new subscriber.

 

Not really. There's nothing at all special about third party exclusives coming to PC. In your pattern of three facts, Fact1 doesn't count.

 

No you have to grasp the fact that when a timed exclusive goes to PC it has nothing to do with Sony.

 

If they get ported and make money, Sony will port future games. We also have Sony saying they want to diversify their target platforms, so there's bound to be some games cross-platform in design now. At the time of that announcement, speculation was more GaaS type titles, but maybe they (also) intended AAA adventures that they specialise in getting the cross-platform treatment to maximise ROI on them?

 

Then why did none of these games get ported to Xbox?

 

I have always been a big proponent of the Eco system/network but I still think the best way is to offer under cost hardware to lock people in and everyone has been saying how that's not the way anymore but I feel it makes more sense now than ever before.

 

Maybe it was part of the contracts?

 

If so, then Sony WAS involved, wouldn't you say? They allowed only PC to have that privilege, they had a say in the matter, which means they ARE involved.

 

Maybe harder or take more resources to port to base Xbox one?

 

I've just checked what actual games are currently available on PC and Xbox and yeah, I agree. Except for older games that have already been washed through multiple, seasonal sales, there are few very few AA/AAA games. I was under the impression that Game Pass was offering more AAA games at launch.

Well, the money needs to cover the cost the porting and not cross that esoteric line where it may detract from the appeal of Sony's expensive hardware platform.

I missed this, can you point me in the right direction?

 

Porting to Xbox is a much easier task than PC, on Xbox you have a similar architecture to PS4, and a fixed one as well, on PCs, you have comparatively different architectures and dozens of possibilities that need covering.

Here ya go:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ire-spider-man-video-game-developer-insomniac

 

Yea, I think only their 1P studio games launch day 1 and I've seen a handful (IIRC < 4) of indies launch on it. And I think a handful (IIRC < 5) of AAA titles that launched on it 4-5 months after release.

 

Sony don't want the rival console to have the same library as that undermines the value of their console somewhat. If they refused PC ports as well, it'd cost them even more to secure the licensing (devs would want compensation for the money they wouldn't be getting from PC). Hence, a compromised solution of console exclusive.

 

It doesn't matter how old the game is, it is a start of a new era, he said more is to come. Besides that, there are actually people that can wait for a better experience.

Maybe in the beginning, as it looks like now, for the PS5 atleast, it is kinda mid-range for when the consoles launch (late 2020). A 8 core zen is the most logical choice when buying a new PC even today. SSD/Nvme is about the norm now, and prices aren't that excessive anymore. The GPU will be the most expensive perhaps, but if a 5700XT from yesteryear already packs more raw power then the PS5, i don't see 1998 prices happening atleast (2000 dollar or more pc's).

Seems a good assumption. And from that point on we might see games launching first on PS5/6 etc, and about 6 months later on PC perhaps.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...JDp-M1NDLsPCUWX4bgbHXljd5iSbt-oVUagMTTIggJbls

I think you guys might be on to something, Epic recently started, with a bad reputation and not near the quality of Sony's games yet, but anyway their success seems quite huge already now. There clearly is a oppertunity for Sony do a PS store on PC.

Yes there is, for every generation that has gone, we have seen more and more of their games appearing on PC. Following that trend, and what he said, we probably will see even more of that happening with the coming generation.

Windows can be used for many other things too.

He said in a death stranding pc discussion that a HZD on PC would never happen, wouldn't put too much into everything he says even though he has insider friends. Just like everyone else here, he and we are guessing. There is a clear trend going on here, you can be in denial or accept it.

He also mentioned there is more to come.

They will have to sometime, companies need to evolve/diversify. MS has done it awhile ago, Sony wants a piece of the cake too.

Exactly, Sony is just a big company taking any chance to earn even more money.

It is a hot topic for sure, meltdowns everywhere, for nothing

 

Happy to be corrected but to the best of my knowledge we've seen zero first party PlayStation games to be released on PC.

 

Which only goes to show how much of a change this is.

 

But MLB: The Show ...

 

Their license terms required it.

 

Good point. Surprised license terms didn't require it earlier. Must have just been up for renewal and the content owners waking up to the current markets.