Microsoft Windows 10 hardware event Oct 6th 10 am EST

ToTTenTranz said:
Two whole SoCs? That sounds hard to believe..
Two Intel chips could be SoC+EDRAM or SoC + PCH.
The MCM shown in the video presentations of the Surface Pro 4 actually had 3 chips, which I think would be SoC+PCH+eDRAM.
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it costs 2/3rds more than surface pro 4 . Does an NVidia gpu and keyboard hardware really add $ 600
 
ToTTenTranz said:
Two whole SoCs? That sounds hard to believe..
Two Intel chips could be SoC+EDRAM or SoC + PCH.
The MCM shown in the video presentations of the Surface Pro 4 actually had 3 chips, which I think would be SoC+PCH+eDRAM.
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Or the new input chip that he referred to. A "G" something.
 
BadTB25 said:
So mashable is saying that SP4 is 50% lighter than SP3?
I didn't catch that. If so, that is really incredible and with a 30% increase in power too.
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I guess battery is the biggest weight in the surface pro line up . If the new SOC uses less power they could put in smaller batteries for the same life spand which is like 8 -10 hours on the 3. Which will make a lighter and skinnier device. Also cooling could be less complicated with a lower power cpu
 
eastmen said:
I guess battery is the biggest weight in the surface pro line up . If the new SOC uses less power they could put in smaller batteries for the same life spand which is like 8 -10 hours on the 3. Which will make a lighter and skinnier device. Also cooling could be less complicated with a lower power cpu
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That would mean the Pro 4 is using a Core M Skylake, but that wouldn't be more powerful than a 15W Haswell.
 
BadTB25 said:
Got it. I thought he was referring the MCM?? on the SP4.
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He talked about the G5 was talking about the PixelSense in the screen .

The MCM is the intel core with edram I believe

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eastmen said:
it costs 2/3rds more than surface pro 4 . Does an NVidia gpu and keyboard hardware really add $ 600
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I'd guess the base spec for the Surface Pro 4 should be with a Core i3 Skylake , 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD whereas the Surface Book may start with much higher specs like a Core i7, 8GB RAM and 512GB SSD, for example.

Besides, the Surface Book appears to be a much more premium-y device than the Surface 4 Pro, so a straight BoM logic doesn't really apply here.
 
ToTTenTranz said:
I'd guess the base spec for the Surface Pro 4 should be with a Core i3 Skylake , 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD whereas the Surface Book may start with much higher specs like a Core i7, 8GB RAM and 512GB SSD, for example.

Besides, the Surface Book appears to be a much more premium-y device than the Surface 4 Pro, so a straight BoM logic doesn't really apply here.
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perhaps , I guess we will know tomorrow. The press is getting hands on currently
 
eastmen said:
perhaps , I guess we will know tomorrow. The press is getting hands on currently
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Can't wait for some impressions. Also, I feel that a lot of details may have been glossed over in the interest of time. All of the presenters seemed to be moving at mach speed as if trying to keep to a strict time line...it could be a reason for the awkwardness.
 
http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/06/surface-pro-4-pen/

And to make it all work, Microsoft outfitted the Surface Pro 4 with a new, in-house co-processor known as the G5, which handles the display/stylus interaction. The button on the Surface Pen can still be used to quick-launch OneNote, and now Cortana as well. Best of all, though, the stylus comes in five colors and magnetically attaches to the side of the Surface Pro 4, so you might notice you've misplaced it that much sooner.

it made sense to improve the writing and doodling experience, too. Most importantly, the new "Surface Pen" has 1,024 degrees of pressure sensitivity, four times that of the Surface Pro 3, and an "all-year" battery life, which is something of a double-edged sword since you can't actually recharge it. The Surface Pen also has a tail eraser for manual undoing, and a selection of interchangeable tips for different tasks that change how the Pen feels and responds
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Some info on the G5
 
eastmen said:
I guess under that fan is the NVidia gpu
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The GPU is under the heatpipe below that squared interface. The fan can't have anything underneath because it's probably a blower design which takes the air from below.
 
Surface book

128GB/i5 8GB $1500
256/i5/8 $1700

with dgpu
256/i5/8 $1900
256/i7/ 8 2099
512/i7/16gb 2700

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...25716000?icid=en_US_SurfaceBk_cat_modG_100615

  • 13.5-inch PixelSense™ touchscreen display (3000 x 2000) resolution
  • Windows 10 Pro operating system
  • Incredibly mobile at 1.6 lbs (728g)
  • Surface Pen included

Windows 10 Pro • Office 30-day trial

Exterior
Casing: Magnesium • Color: Silver • Physical buttons: Volume, Power

Dimensions
Laptop: 9.14 x 12.30 x 0.51- 0.90 in ( 232.1 x 312.3 x 13 -22.8 mm)
Clipboard: 8.67 x 12.30 x 0.30 in (220.2 x 312.3 x 7.7 mm)

Weight
1.6lbs (728g)

Storage3
Solid state drive (SSD) options: 128GB, 256GB, or 512GB

Display
Screen: 13.5” PixelSense™ display • Resolution: 3000 x 2000 (267 PPI) • Aspect ratio: 3:2 • Touch: 10 point multi-touch

Battery Life
Up to 12 hours of video playback1

Processor
6th Gen Intel Core i5 or i7

Graphics
i5: Intel HD graphics (non-GPU) • i5/i7: NVIDIA GeForce graphics (GPU)

Security
TPM chip for enterprise security

Memory
8GB or 16GB RAM

Wireless
802.11ac Wi-Fi wireless networking; IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n compatible
Bluetooth 4.0 wireless technology

Ports
Two full-size USB 3.0
Full-size SD card reader
Surface Connect
Headset jack
Mini DisplayPort

Cameras, video and audio
5.0 megapixel front-facing camera
8.0 megapixel rear-facing camera with autofocus, with 1080p HD video recording
Dual Microphones, front and rear facing
Front-facing stereo speakers with Dolby audio

Sensors
Ambient light sensor • Accelerometer • Gyroscope • Magnetometer

What's in the box
Surface Book
Surface Pen
Power Supply
Quick Start Guide
Safety and warranty documents

Warranty
1-year limited
 
Surface pro 4

128/intel m3 /4gb $900
128/i5/4gb 1k
256/i5/8gb 1300
256/i5/16GB 1500

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.325711500

you can further customize on the site. But the core m is limited to 4GB memory 128gig storage ,

The i7 you can get 1TB storage but only with the 16 gig option . You can do an i5 with 16gigs and 512 storage or 8 gigs with 512.

The i7 16gig with 1tb of storage is a wopping 2700 !

Software
Windows 10 Pro • Office 30-day trial

Exterior
Casing: Magnesium • Color: Silver • Physical buttons: Volume, Power

Dimensions
11.50 x 7.93 x .33 in (292.10 x 201.42 x 8.45 mm)

Weight
i5/i7: 1.73lbs (786g)
m3: 1.69lbs (766g)

Storage3
Solid state drive (SSD) options: 128GB, 256GB, or 512GB

Display
Screen: 12.3" PixelSense™ Display • Resolution: 2763 x 1824 (267 PPI) • Aspect Ratio: 3:2 • Touch: 10 point multi-touch

Battery Life
Up to 9 hours of video playback1

Processor
6th Gen Intel Core m3, i5, or i7

Graphics
m3 Intel HD graphics 515 • i5 Intel HD graphics 520 • i7 Intel Iris graphics

Security
TPM chip for enterprise security

Memory
4GB, 8GB or 16GB RAM

Wireless
802.11ac Wi-Fi wireless networking; IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n compatible
Bluetooth 4.0 wireless technology

Ports
Full-size USB 3.0
microSD Card reader
Headset jack
Mini DisplayPort
Cover port
Surface Connect

Cameras, video and audio
5.0 megapixel front-facing HD camera
8.0 megapixel rear-facing autofocus camera with 1080p HD video recording
Stereo microphones
Stereo speakers with Dolby audio

Sensors
Ambient light sensor • Accelerometer • Gyroscope • Magnetometer

What's in the Box
Surface Pro 4
Surface Pen
Power Supply
Quick Start Guide
Safety and warranty documents

Warranty
1-year limited
 
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