Microsoft Project xCloud (Game Streaming)

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  1. orangpelupa

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    You can plug s20 to TV I suppose
     
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    I'm thinking future collaboration involves XCloud support integral to Sammy TVs.
     
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    iOS limited flight announced...

    https://majornelson.com/2020/02/12/project-xcloud-limited-ios-testflight-preview-begins-today/

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    Five more games added to xCloud preview, Journey to the Savage Planet, A Plague Tale: Innocence, Cities Skyline, Age of Wonders: Planetfall and Mudrunner.

     
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    Don't know if this is even possible but hear me out...

    XBSX + DirectML = hardware accelerated Project xCloud = better image quality?

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    What is it learning to do that provides better image quality?
     
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    Maybe the thought process is using DirectML to train using inputs of Native 4K / 8K graphics compared to 720p - 1080p graphics, then use the training results on client-side to adjust the xCloud streams of 720p - 1080p to output better image quality 4K / 8K without the network bandwidth cost of streaming 4K / 8K?
     
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    No idea. I saw the DirectML stuff increasing fidelity & thought maybe the developer would have something local that would increase fidelity over what base streaming would show. Any device that can play video can be a xCloud device, but any XBSX device with hardware DirectML support can turn up the IQ up to 11.

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    Yes, that!

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    New discovery feature released on Android app...

    https://majornelson.com/2020/03/09/...enabling-you-to-discover-and-play-more-games/

    Tommy McClain
     
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    Tidbits...
    • Over 100,000 feedback messages from Insiders. 20% is just people telling the team how much they enjoy the service.
    • At least 3/4 of the people play more games than before using the service. And not just on xCloud but across the Xbox ecosystem.
    • People are playing games in more places: work, while deployed in the military, etc.
    • In the last couple of weeks they encountered games that are being played more on xCloud than on console.
    • Making games more cloud aware.
    • Developers in Japan have showed interest in making content specifically for xCloud.
    • Ninja Theory is making touch controls for Hellblade.
    • Working with Rare & Coalition to make games better on the xCloud.
    • Over 90 titles with Yakuza 0 now included.


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    This would be a very interesting set of challenges, on the face of it you have two processes, a DLSS equivalent and also some filter to the decompressed video similar to modern TVs.

    The issue I see is a DLSS process will have a much harder time working with and especially from a compressed stream.

    Could you do this work at the cloud side and send the results as some meta data or secondary video stream? the client uses to process the image to reduce the amplification of compression artifacts or defects.

    This would be similar to project Kahawai but with an up scaling twist not a detail improving fucus.

    https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/...ing-better-visuals-to-xbox-one-mobile-devices
     
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    How so, have they bought an X360? :p

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    Well there it is the official? Blade
     
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    Pretty sure they have shown it off before, they are one S blades in use atm.

    Anaconda does 4 instances of Xbox One S when then put that to the cloud apparently, and looking at the modular mobo with IO on a separate board that should allow for quite dense blades.
    I would say if you consider the airflow in that blade that is exactly how Series X works, I would say the hardware is very much co developed for the data centre where there is sensible overlap.

    Edit:
    Perhaps it was just an animation they showed. If you watch this you can see they layout is identical to what you see above. Very cool to see, would be a dream project to work on I think.

     
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    The XSX main motherboard seems really well suited for squeezing a few into an Azure shelf.

    In general with Xcloud, have they talked about how they handled storage? Games are presumably on a more central repository in the server centre and are sent to instances?
     
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    While I have 0 personal interest in cloud gaming for the foreseeable future, for MS being able to use the same silicon to power the service is a great move. It reduces the budget on the developers for testing and different branches. For MS, it gives them more economies of scale when buying.
     
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