Lightsmark - new realtime global illumination demo

Very nice lighting and shadows. Textures could use some work, but the name isn't "Texturemark" so I digress.

 

That looks fantastic.

57 fps at 1600x1200 X1950Pro (no-AA/no-AF in CP).

I think the music is prolly a bad idea, it's just going to annoy on repeated runs - and there's no obvious volume control.

Jawed

 

Interesting. Care to share any of the details with us? Is it fully compatible with dynamic objects?

I noticed some substantial temporal "shivering" of the light now and then. Other than that it looked pretty decent.

It seems like you have a good base to build on for photorealism. You should try making some reference scenes with a good offline renderer to compare with your realtime engine and tweak it to match. Then you can really make some noise with your work.

 

Is the radiosity propagation done with the GPU? How do you eliminate the n^2 dependency on vertex count when you have dynamic objects? Is this similar to the radiosity demo on NVidia's site?

Also, do you take occlusion into account with the radiosity propagation?

 

64 FPS (1600x1200) HD2600XT GDDR3 (830/960)

Pěkný, jen ta hudba je moc hlasitá

 

Pretty neat, got 161 fps (1680x1050) 2900XT on Vista x64.

 

Pretty cool demo!!

But.... it's 24 FPS at 1680x1050 on mobility FireGL V5200 (x1600) with my NW8440, core duo T7200 cpu. The driver is only 6.14 as it was supplied by HP

 

Very nice!

27 fps on X800 vanilla @ 1440x900.

 

Great... examples built on dated tech. None of those are "2007" games. The closest thing you've got is a mod project started in 2001 that was finally rolled out as freeware in 2007. And it's still an example that uses pretty slim geometric complexity by today's standards, and uses cramped spaces and high contrast between surfaces (which happens to be very convenient for GI since you don't need to consider many bounces to get some pretty significant results).

You mentioned yourself that the static parts of the scene rely on precomputed form factor relationships, which is again knowledge prior to render time. That, to me, says that performance wouldn't necessarily scale up all too well for number of dynamic objects. Where's your "Gears-Of-War-scale" example, for instance?

I'm still waiting to see the scene with ~800k *visible* tris per frame that covers a square mile of pretty wide open space with 100-200 moving objects of all scales and 4 or 5 dynamic lights plus maybe one or two static lights (which still cast realtime shadows). If you can do that as well and still get 240+ fps (note that I say that because there's more than rendering going on in a frame), that's what I'd consider a starting point of in-game viability in this day and age. Ask me again in a couple of years, and I'd give you an even bigger set of figures. The numbers thrown around on your site... They're certainly better than anything that an academic research project would yield, and I'd have been very interested if you could produce those kinds of results in 2002.

Secondly, there's just the failure cases that would present themselves very easily in a game. Anyone who says that their "realtime GI" approaches are without limitations is either an utter liar or someone who never even bothered to consider a meaningful range of use cases. After a few escapades with various "GI" middleware providers, it's almost always the latter.

 

So you do shadow mapping to determine the direct illumination at each vertex, and then read it back to the CPU to do the radiosity propagation?

Thank you for that video. It looks very nice, but also shows the limitations of your technique.

It looks like you don't have any occlusion of indirect lighting. IMHO, this is a very important effect. For example, if a character or object is near a wall, it should be darker on the wall behind that object because it can't receive as much indirect lighting.

Nonetheless, it's very good work. It shows that much of the radiosity effect can be achieved without complicated occlusion tests, and I've been inspired to pursue some ideas of my own.

 

Damn SMM, now tell us how you REALLY feel!



Seriously, that's about the best brainiac putdown I've seen since the FX era. Kudos.

 

Couldn't get it to work, cat 7.10, XP, x1900gt. :\

"DOS terminal" pops up for a split second and closes, nothing happens.

 

60 fps on X1650 XT @ 641/783 P4 3.4GHz, 3GB RAM on XP Cat 7.10.

 

~150 fps on stock 2900XT with 7.10's, under Vista-32.