Intel ULP SoCs

IIRC they didn't sell 40M tablets yet, that's their target for all of 2014.

 

I ordered a Chuwi V89 tablet. 190€ for a fully-fledged Windows tablet with stereo side-facing speakers, 1920*1200 PLS screen made by Samsung, 2GB RAM and a BayTrail. The defining spec was that it supposedly supports 5GHz WiFi networks, so it'll be my Steam Home Streaming client for the house, along with this:

 

maybe cheap tablets but something with the same quality screen as in the surface pro ? I would like to see a 13nm atom with 4 gigs of ram in the same body as the surface pro 3 but fanless

I would be impressed . A surface pro 3 with core m would be really nice

Like you say broadwell is down to atom TDPs but atom on the same process should hit even lower TDPs than broadwell. The baytrail stuff is fine for what most would want out of a cheaper tablet. a small bump in ipc and gpu performance while droping to a 1w tdp or lower would really make for an impressive chip.

I doubt apple will use intel chips even if performance shifts in their favor as apple has to much control over the chips.

I believe skydale has a new gpu . So it will be interesting to see what happens.

I have a surface pro 1 and I would like a surface pro 3 form factor but with a 10w tdp skydale. I think that is a chip than can out perform the surface pro 1/2 in all metrics.

I just hope they don't go fanless , the thermal throttling seems to be a problem with the core m reviews I saw

 

Contra-revenue might backfire hard
Asustek said to be adopting Qualcomm solution for new ZenFone; looking for price cut from Intel.

Note: handle with care it's from DigiTimes...

 

The Dell Venue 8 Pro has 5 GHz wifi support. I wouldn't surprised if you get the same Atheros wifi board.

 

The chinese specs said it's a realtek chip.

The problem is that the chinese seem to pay little to no attention to the WiFi chip. They only say it supports WiFi 802.11n and call it a day, even in most of the manufacturers' websites.
I had to tirelessly browse through tens of chinese translated home reviews to find a hint that this tablet supported 5GHz WiFi..

And if it turns out to not support it... well then the joke's on me. And I'll just buy a 5GHz WiFi dongle, meh..

 

There are RealTek cards that support the 5GHz spectrum but they do not show up often in the smallest tablets.

I've grown to despise the Marvel Avastar units in the Surface and Surface Pro 1/2 devices. Not sure if the Surface Pro 3 is any better in that regard...

 

I was incorrect, it used to be the top performing SOC in the basemark OS II Memory benchmark but the K1 one beat it. The biggest issue is that as you got me to investigate further I'm not sure how those score related to the efficiency of the memory subsystem and memory controller.

You are right again.
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I might be late to the party but I just discovered that Dell updated its Dell venue 7&8 with Atom Z3460 with this year. I went on reading the reviews I found and noticed that CPU scaling was not that great past 2 cores (looking at geekbench results).
Intel Ark show some unexpected differences between SOC like the Z3460 and Z3560 and the Z3745 too.
I would have expected the 2 first one to be the same size, package sizes at least differ. Memory bandwidth differs whereas all those chips are listed as dual memory channel (putting memory speed aside).

Anyway nice showing for PowerVR and Intel too as the Z3460 does pretty OK out of its 8.5GB/s of memory.

 

In case anyone is wondering how the score got so "good" for the 6400 all of the sudden: http://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx30&os=Android&api=gl&D=Nokia+N1&testgroup=overall

...it's on OGL_ES3.1/Lollipop with the newest drivers

 

This looks pretty impressive.

http://hothardware.com/news/on-test-the-track-with-dells-venue-8-7000-and-intels-moorefield

6 mm thick using Moorefield with a 2560x1600 OLED display. Wish they had done some battery life tests. Still lags behind Tegra K1 and Apple 8X in graphics but not bad in the rest.

Regards,
SB

 

Moorefield is 22nm still I believe . So hopefully 14nm pushes performance much higher.

Airmont should be much better than silvermont but intel really needs to get its modems in house , they are using 28nm tmsc . I hope they get it in house for the next batch of products on 14nm . We would see drastic power savings

 

Airmont isn't much better than Silvermont: according to Intel it's mainly a clock increase (2.7GHz turbo). Goldmont will be the improved micro-architecture.

 

The majority of power taken by a modem isn't by the digital portion, but the RF. That can't easily shrink to new process technologies.

 

Sounds like a mini, self-aligning, parabolic dish is called for

 

Dang, didn't see that the new Venue 8 7000 is an Android device, d'oh. Wonder if they'll provide an updated "Pro" version of that box for Windows losers like me...

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see a Cherry Trail based pro version for Windows at some point. Interestingly, for the previous gen. Dell Venue 8 (9.8 mm) was actually thicker than the Dell Venue 8 Pro (9 mm).

We've come a long way from when Intel based tablets were relatively thick monstrosities (exaggeration) compared to ARM based tablets. And that was only 2-3 years ago.

Regards,
SB

 

There is a small problem: It uses a Z3580 and delievers higher GPU power.
(I have no idea, if you can simply replace a Z3580 by a Z3745 without design changes.)

 

Battery life for that Dell Venue 8 7000 is pretty darn good. CPU performance is good. GPU performance would have been decent last year, but isn't that good this year.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...iking-tablet-that-falls-short-of-greatness/2/

If Intel can get GPU performance up, they'll basically have caught up with most ARM offerings in performance AND power consumption.

Regards,
SB

 

Even Baytrail GPU performance is good enough for such devices unless someone truly wants a portable gaming device. I don't have any doubt that they'll have stronger GPU performance with their next generation tablet SoCs, but what they primarily need are better Android drivers. Efficienct hardware is always just half of the entire story.

 

According to last year's rumours, Braswell will bring a gen8 GPU with 16 EUs.
If the clocks are unchanged, this means about 4-5x better GPU performance than BayTrail offerings.

Looking at these, it'll put it around last year's TK1 and A8X's performance:



(Look at the MemoPad 7 results, that's a BayTrail)