Intel Launches Comet Lake (Core 10th Series)

Just going to leave this here. You also need a new motherboard and better cooling. Still stuck at PCIe v3. You can currently get the Ryzen 9 3900X for $390 at Micro Center. Curiously the review lack any thermal measurements.

 

Yikes, nearly 2x the power rating than the equivalent spec AMD? Am I reading that right, the 10600 Intel and 3600 AMD.

And double yikes, still stuck on PciE v3 for Intel. When were they planning on Pcie v5, for consumers, next year?

Those prices for AMD that AT used seem way higher than current retail costs, as Pressure pointed out. What are they using, launch prices from 6 to 9 months ago?

 

Not to mention the 3600 is currently $160. Not to derail the thread.

 

And the 10900k price is per 1k

 

The sobering realization hits when you let it sink in that an AMD 3300x with fast memory is pretty much up there as well. PC hardware stagnation, typical game code and the fact that GPUs limit performance too, makes spending a lot of money on CPU upgrades rather pointless as far as gaming is concerned.
(I run an intel 3770 at 4.2GHz all cores, conditions where it draws 75 easy to cool Watts. (I’ve got 24GB of fast low latency DDR3.) There is no product available that will net me more than 50% in gaming, and since the GPU introduces limitations as well, there’s no rational point to upgrading my game box. It’s been 8 years.)
From a tech enthusiast point of view, this stagnation is terrible. From a gaming point of view, it’s a good thing. I can enjoy playing whatever interesting new games that are published and spend my money on other than PC hardware components.

 

Now, I don’t want to stop anyone from shopping their way to happiness, but how on Gods green earth do you manage to get CPU limited like that in Destiny 2? Do you have a 240Hz monitor, or what’s going on? Reviews tend to do 200fps or more in CPU affected scenarios, and I never saw drops below 60Hz when I played it (I used my old 2560x1440 IPS monitor for this game).

More cores might come into play more as this next console generation moves on. They are a static target though, so anything you buy that is sufficient, is likely to stay so for the remaining decade.

 

Isn't Intel planning to bring 10nm+ CPUs to the desktop anytime soon?

Looks like they put themselves into a corner where they only have 2 choices:
- Higher core-count using 14nm+++++ Skylake cores with old I/O and iGPU
- Low core-count (up to 4 cores max?) using the new 10nm+ cores with new I/O and iGPU

What I'm getting from looking at core count on newer architectures is that Intel still isn't confident enough to make larger chips on 10nm on a large scale.
Otherwise they could e.g. repurpose part of the Ice Lake SP cores to a prosumer platform so they could fight Threadripper.

Fixed that for you.
Games are about to be developed with 3.5GHz 8 core / 16 thread CPUs with current-gen IPC in mind. A 6-core / 12-thread model can only compensate for that in instructions-per-time if it's running at 4.7GHz (3.5*1.33) assuming L2 cache doesn't become a bottleneck, and with a PC OS' higher overhead we'd probably need around 5GHz sustained instead.

Unless someone is intending to upgrade their CPU (and probably motherboard too, knowing Intel) next year, purchasing a 6-core CPU is just a mistake nowadays.
Sure, it might be good value for today, but it's terrible future-proofing nonetheless. And so are the 4-core Ryzen 3000 BTW, but at least those are so cheap that it could make sense to save some money now to compensate for a lower-priced 8-10 core model next year.

 

Then it makes sense!
I actually went the extra mile here, and downloaded the game again (all 87GB....) to check my memory. And true enough, I never dropped below 100fps, and yours should be a tad faster. I played at 60fps at the time, and never ever saw frame drops. I can see that it would be a different ball game at 144Hz. Unless you run with Active-/G-sync, where I don't think it makes a lot of difference actually.
Running at very high frame rates could be tricky in the future, where 3.5GHz Zen2 is the baseline. (And I do believe that adding cores beyond 8 isn't going to make one hell of a lot of difference. Actual speed per thread will be the metric I look out for.) The next generation consoles will have pretty good CPU capabilities. Getting a factor 2 up in per thread performance could be a long wait.

One might actually have to adjust settings (gasp!) to achieve higher level frame rates.