Intel ARC GPUs, Xe Architecture for dGPUs

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  1. DavidGraham

    DavidGraham Veteran

    Built on 10nm and scalable for the entire market.

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  2. pharma

    pharma Veteran

    Your IMG doesn't display.
     
  3. AlphaWolf

    AlphaWolf Specious Misanthrope Legend

    Is that 'graph' actually supposed to be indicative of the performance of the various skus?
     
  4. giannhs

    giannhs Newcomer

    a typical intel graph

    literally no one knows wtf they are saying
     
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  5. Dayman1225

    Dayman1225 Newcomer

    Probably better to talk about Gen11 graphics since they actually have given details on that like Tile based rendering and what not
     
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    Dayman1225 Newcomer

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  7. Alexko

    Alexko Veteran Subscriber

    Or exponential growth? As in x^e.
     
  8. Alexko

    Alexko Veteran Subscriber

    Wait, no, that would be e^x, brain fart. For some reason I can't edit or delete my post, and now everyone will now how stupid I am until the end of time.
     
  9. Alexko

    Alexko Veteran Subscriber

    *Know.

    Goddammit.
     
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  10. JasonLD

    JasonLD Regular

    I assume both Xeon and Xe dGPU would be based on 7nm. Since they are shooting for at least 5 times of Summit's processing power, I don't think it would be achievable on 10nm, assuming similar total power target.
     
  11. I think Intel's 10nm is closer to TSMC's 7nm than their (or Samsung's) 10nm node.
     
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  12. Entropy

    Entropy Veteran

    Initial information from Intel would suggest so. It is quite likely still the case, more or less. On the other hand, it is difficult to imagine that Intel would insist on a process that just hasn't worked out for them, so it is widely rumoured and assumed that the process we will finally see widely deployed will differ from the initial plans. In what ways, and to what extent, nobody outside intel knows or shares. It will be very interesting when a third party analysis goes public, to see whatever changes had to be made (if any) to make the process viable. (But by the way their PR spins things, we could see their 7nm products before their 10nm ever gets to broad volume production. :))
     
  13. JasonLD

    JasonLD Regular

    Yeah, I know that. Since Aurora is expected to be completed in late 2021, I assumed it might be using Intel’s future 7nm Euv instead of their upcoming 10nm. Intel’s 7nm should be closer to TSMC’s and Samsung’s future 3nm.
     
  14. Dayman1225

    Dayman1225 Newcomer

    To be fair it’s being installed in 2021 so unless Intel is ramping new 7nm chips in late 2020 it’ll likely be 10nm based stuff. According to Toms it’s being “stood up” in early 2021 and will be fully operational by the end of 2021
     
  15. DavidGraham

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  17. Ike Turner

    Ike Turner Veteran

    This is some nice & tasty nothing burger...

    GPU acceleration for Intel Embree & OSPRay (currently CPU only via AVX2 /SSE2) most probably via OpenCL or Vulkan.

    The exact Intel quote

    "Xe architecture roadmap for data center optimized rendering includes ray tracing hardware acceleration support for the Intel® Rendering Framework family of API’s and libraries."

    Fanboy clickbait interpretation:

    "Intel's next dGPU to support hardware ray tracing."

    EDIT: Here's the full PR and it doesn't sound like anything more that Intel porting Embree & OSPRay to GPU and that they are treating RT as "as a general computational technique" (similar wording to Microsoft's DXR announcement btw). I don't see anything hinting at some "RT Core" like implementation...

     
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  18. Malo

    Malo Yak Mechanicum Legend Subscriber

    Yeah that's basically saying the GPUs will be supported for the Intel framework API.

    Which WCCF specializes in and yet they're still spread everywhere.
     
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  19. OCASM

    OCASM Regular

    Well, NVIDIA mentioned that the Turing RT cores could also be used for physics and audio simulations so it can be interpreted either way :twisted:
     
  20. keldor

    keldor Newcomer

    All I see is a bunch of PR drivel. And comparing their product due sometime in the next few years with the programming model of GPUs about a decade ago. I'm not impressed.
     
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