Intel 2700G: A threat to Nvidia and ATI?

Uhm... and it's a threat because of...?

The IMG IP licensing part sounds promising, but without any detail on the actual product... "game console performance" does not sound particularly threatening on its own.

 

I'd be surprised if Imageon 2300 was higher performance than even the lowest MBX. Hopefully I'll be able to dig up some more details on Imageaon this week and get a better understanding of where these mobile parts lie.

 

Sounds like a Kyro for handhelds made by Intel. Could be a interesting matchup against the GoForce and IMAGEON.

 

That's exactly the misconception IMHO here and probably the reason why Kristof posted the thread initially. If IMG won't come up with a way to set the record straight, people will continue to think that MBX is a KYRO or Dreamcast in SoC format.

Peddie calls it "dated technology"; I'm not so sure either GoForce or Imageon on the other hand is what one would call recent technology, rather the vastly opposite.

 

LOL. I should look more carefully before I post.

Is it basically MBX Lite, Kristof? And what's it clocked to? 100Mhz to match the FSB?

 

I think the biggest threat to nVidia right now is the same as it was last year, nVidia.

 

Is Nokia going to use the MBX core in its NGAGE 2?

 

No idea. Isn't NOKIA one of TI's biggest customers?

 

PowerVR MBX finally will go to real product on May 27, 2004 in Japan,
as Mitsubishi's new HDD Car-navigation System "CU-H9000".
This navi uses Renesas' "SH7770"(400MHz).
SH77700 includes PowerVR MBX core and SH-4A like Sega Dreamcast.


http://response.jp/issue/2004/0422/article59781_1.images/65416.html
http://pcweb.mycom.co.jp/photo/news/2004/04/22/002al.jpg

http://pcweb.mycom.co.jp/news/2004/04/22/002.html
http://www.itmedia.co.jp/lifestyle/articles/0404/22/news028.html
http://response.jp/issue/2004/0422/article59781_1.html
http://www.mitsubishielectric.co.jp/carele/carnavi/
http://www.renesas.com/eng/news/2004/0223/

 

From the first link Kristof posted (THG):

Wow what an informed article... oh and don't you just LOVE analysts

 

While I'm not in a position to defend his comments, Jon Peddie is not your ordinary analyst. He has a solid hands-on background in computer graphics and has been involved in the industry for decades.

http://www.jonpeddie.com/about/about.shtml

 

So far, that has been true.

Basically, it sounds like he's a little bit skeptical of the IP business model in the PC space....and I don't blame him.

 

PC space? Where?

Id like mr. Peddie to point out which parts of the featureset of the MBX is not up to date with the ones from their competitors. Then again, I wouldnt particularely mind seeing pigs fly either.

 

kemosabe

That may very well be the case. However in this case Mr Peddie really doesn't know what he's talking about AFAICS

Joe

So far in the PC space PowerVR based chips have used yesterdays technology. But that hasn't been the case in all markets (console, arcade). Also MBX is clearly not yesterdays technology in the handheld market.

BTW, just to be clear, I bolded that text more to highlight the fact that Mr Peddie seems to believe MBX is basically a DC chip. Rather then to disagree on the old IP licensing means big delays and old technology argument.

 

That's all I'm (and I bleieve Peddie) is referring to.

 

In the PDA/mobile market ATI/NV are way behind in terms of feature-sets and or functionalities with their sollutions compared to MBX. Since when is the 2700G a PC graphics sollution?