Intel 2700G: A threat to Nvidia and ATI?

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  1. Kristof

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    Yes, yes... why would I post this 8)

    http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20040412_000002.html

    And :

    http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20040412_000001.html

    Including pricing info in this one :

    http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-5189764.html?tag=nefd.top

    And to clear up some confusion :

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/12/intel_ships_bulverde/

    QUOTE : Intel nicely cleared up for us the codename confusion that has surrounded the 2700G. Readers may recall Intel COO Paul Otellini discussing the part in January under the codename 'Carbonado'. Later, it appeared to change to 'Marathon'. Now the truth can be revealed: Marathon is the 2700G, Carbonado is Intel's wireless PDA reference platform built around Bulverde and Marathon.

    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15283

    http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/tech/200404/kt2004041217492211780.htm

    QUOTE : Such companies as LG Electronics and Pantech Group, however, plan to use the processors and accelerators for export items, especially for the Europe-dominant global system for mobile communications (GSM) phones.

    http://www.darkcrow.co.kr/Home/home.asp?idx=#3016

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  2. anaqer

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    Uhm... and it's a threat because of...?

    The IMG IP licensing part sounds promising, but without any detail on the actual product... "game console performance" does not sound particularly threatening on its own.
     
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    I'd be surprised if Imageon 2300 was higher performance than even the lowest MBX. Hopefully I'll be able to dig up some more details on Imageaon this week and get a better understanding of where these mobile parts lie.
     
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    That's exactly the misconception IMHO here and probably the reason why Kristof posted the thread initially. If IMG won't come up with a way to set the record straight, people will continue to think that MBX is a KYRO or Dreamcast in SoC format.

    Peddie calls it "dated technology"; I'm not so sure either GoForce or Imageon on the other hand is what one would call recent technology, rather the vastly opposite.
     
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    LOL. I should look more carefully before I post.

    Is it basically MBX Lite, Kristof? And what's it clocked to? 100Mhz to match the FSB?
     
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    The Intel datasheet reads on page 29 of 160 :

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    I think the biggest threat to nVidia right now is the same as it was last year, nVidia. :roll:
     
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    Is Nokia going to use the MBX core in its NGAGE 2?
     
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    No idea. Isn't NOKIA one of TI's biggest customers?
     
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    From the first link Kristof posted (THG):

    Wow what an informed article... oh and don't you just LOVE analysts :roll:
     
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    While I'm not in a position to defend his comments, Jon Peddie is not your ordinary analyst. He has a solid hands-on background in computer graphics and has been involved in the industry for decades.

    http://www.jonpeddie.com/about/about.shtml
     
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    So far, that has been true.

    Basically, it sounds like he's a little bit skeptical of the IP business model in the PC space....and I don't blame him. ;)
     
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    PC space? Where?

    Id like mr. Peddie to point out which parts of the featureset of the MBX is not up to date with the ones from their competitors. Then again, I wouldnt particularely mind seeing pigs fly either.
     
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    That may very well be the case. However in this case Mr Peddie really doesn't know what he's talking about AFAICS

    Joe

    So far in the PC space PowerVR based chips have used yesterdays technology. But that hasn't been the case in all markets (console, arcade). Also MBX is clearly not yesterdays technology in the handheld market.

    BTW, just to be clear, I bolded that text more to highlight the fact that Mr Peddie seems to believe MBX is basically a DC chip. Rather then to disagree on the old IP licensing means big delays and old technology argument.
     
  19. Joe DeFuria

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    That's all I'm (and I bleieve Peddie) is referring to.
     
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    In the PDA/mobile market ATI/NV are way behind in terms of feature-sets and or functionalities with their sollutions compared to MBX. Since when is the 2700G a PC graphics sollution?
     
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