InnoSilicon launches Fantasy 1 Type A and Type B graphics cards

Discussion in 'Architecture and Products' started by Davros, Dec 3, 2021.

  1. Davros

    Davros Legend

  2. Kaotik

    Kaotik Drunk Member Legend

    Type A's are single and Type B dual GPUs, based on Imagination B(XT) architecture.
    Type A 5 TFLOPS, 16 GB 19 Gbps GDDR6X @ 128bit
    Type B twice that
     
  3. MfA

    MfA Legend

    Wow, it's been a while. I wonder if they are going to borrow the Linux vulkan wrappers for d3d support, Valve has put a lot of work in them.
     
  4. Pressure

    Pressure Veteran

    Shouldn't videocardz.com know the difference between an Immediate Mode Renderer and a Tile-Based Deferred Renderer with regards to needed memory bandwidth?

    304 GB/s seems like total overkill for an TBDR graphic card unless it's meant for compute.

    Perhaps it's time we saw a return of Kryo on desktop now that Apple is finally shipping GPUs with 16 and 32 cores.
     
  5. Lurkmass

    Lurkmass Regular

    They likely don't have official WDDM driver certification so they may very well be borrowing 3rd party translation layers but I imagine they made some modifications to their closed source fork. Direct3D translation layers developed by Valve are only extensively tested on AMD and NV HW so Intel and other vendors often get the short end of the stick in this case. Chances are they applied some optimizations or workaround to make them work better for their HW ...

    I wonder how much better they can do vs MoltenVK since latter easily performs the worst ...
     
  6. Ailuros

    Ailuros Epsilon plus three Legend Subscriber

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  7. pmac

    pmac Newcomer

    Does this mean that Imgtech will be selling these GPUs under the Videologic brand ?
     
  8. Davros

    Davros Legend

    They will probably show up on AliExpress
     
  9. Scott_Arm

    Scott_Arm Legend

    Super interesting. Loved my Kyro 2. Very curious to see how well the Type B actually performs.
     
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  10. Albuquerque

    Albuquerque Red-headed step child Veteran

    Had a good friend with the Kyro 2 and it seemed good, back in the day anyway. I'm in for updates as well :)
     
  11. Rootax

    Rootax Veteran

    Who's providing drivers for this kind of cards ? Ino, or IMG ?
     
  12. Kaotik

    Kaotik Drunk Member Legend

    Pretty sure it's IMG
     
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  13. Rootax

    Rootax Veteran

    Ok. Having good working drivers for windows/DX (if it's happening) would be a very big step if they want to have another go at gaming pcs market, by themselves or with a partner like Ino.
     
  14. digitalwanderer

    digitalwanderer Dangerously Mirthful Legend

    Dumb questions:

    1. Does this mean a new competitor in the discrete GPU market?

    2. Can anyone guess at what level these cards will game? What kind of cards could I compare them to?

    3. How the hell did I miss this thread?!?
     
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  15. MfA

    MfA Legend

    I need to see Doom (eternal) benchmarks before making any guess. If it can perform well in that respect it could be a competitor going forward, but the driver morass of D3D will take a lot of work and I doubt they will have done so in the short term.
     
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  16. Silent_Buddha

    Silent_Buddha Legend

    1. No idea, it's not on the market yet and no-one knows how many will be available for sale or even if it'll be available for sale outside of China.
    2. No idea, there's pretty much no performance information available.
      • Press weren't allowed to see and weren't given any performance data for games that were demonstrated as running on the cards.
      • Performance is reliant on the driver stack as well as the hardware. And both, especially the drivers, are likely in a very immature state at the moment.
    3. It's a new thread. :p
    Regards,
    SB
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2021
  17. swaaye

    swaaye Entirely Suboptimal Legend

    I have the power of PowerVR in my fabulous Teclast T8 tablet with Mediatek MT8176 and PowerVR GX6250. Something like Tegra 4 level. Looks a ton better with the ubiquitous Unity games than the Tegra K1/X1 because those have some kind of compatibility problem with I guess some 16-bit format used by mobile games that needs dithering but NVidia stopped supporting after Tegra 4.

    But...anyway. It will be interesting to see if they become a PC thing of some sort again. I think the last examples were some Intel GMA IGPs that were actually PowerVR tech, and those had significant driver problems. Probably a lack of effort from all parties.
     
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  18. eastmen

    eastmen Legend Subscriber

    remember when I brought this up and people thought I was crazy about them entering back into the video card market.....
     
  19. digitalwanderer

    digitalwanderer Dangerously Mirthful Legend

    In fairness to those people you are crazy. :yep2:



    ;-)
     
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  20. eastmen

    eastmen Legend Subscriber

    Well that is true. But I try not to lie about things i've seen. I just have to be very vague sometimes
     
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