I Hate CCC, part 12

If a feature you use once a month is the best reason you can think of NOT to buy ATI, then ATI aparantly has made a fantastic product!!


Seriously, nobody will deny that CCC is slower than CP and that there doesn't seem to be any reason for that.

But is a tool that you hardly ever use or need, really something to make such a fuss about?

Should it be able to go faster?
Yes
Would I like it be faster?
Yes
Do I use it a lot?
No
Does it therefore bother me much?
No
Are there more important things for ATI to work on?
Yes

 

If URL is of your main PC, I seriously doubt a 7800GT would be suitable....since Nforce3 is AGP only....

 

What utterly backwards thinking. Ever hear of ATITrayTools?

 

You said it ANova, as much as I dislike CCC I don't know how someone would hinge a video card purchase on the bloatness of the control panel. I'm more than a bit anal when it comes to optimising windows so the CCC does grate me quite a bit but I've been using ATT since 5.12 and I couldn't be happier.

 

I've tried using ATT, but due to the way my monitor is hooked up (BNC), I couldn't set the refresh rate that I needed (couldn't detect it or something), so I had to use CCC/CP. Now that I have an LCD(just got it today ), I might give it a try again.

Also, I found that having CCC detect displays every time it was opening is what was slowing it down for me. It used to take ~ 30s for the first opening, then ~ 5-10s after that. After changing the detect setting, it is down to ~ 7s/3s. This still doesn't change the fact that I think it's a bloated piece of crap.

It still takes forever to load at bootup . I can't do anything until it's up and running due the craptastic(relatively speaking of course) multi-tasking of the A64.

 

There`s something you need the CCC for, and there`s no alternative to it:enabling Crossfire. If ATT could do that, it would be wonderful

 

Gainward...

 

TV-out and little tweaks for games and the this problem here
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29657

ATi needs to fix this.

 

Last good driver ATi made imho was the Cat 5.9's

 

Add me to the list of people who hate the CCC. Not only is it slow (it even FEELS slow), it also looks crap and suffers from poor layout.

Sure, we can simply lie back and say "good enough", but anyone doing that needs a smack round the head because the CCC doesn't exist in a void, it exists in a world where ATI had a far, far superior solution called the ATI Control Panel, which loaded instantly, was laid out in a useful and logical way, and was as instantly responsive as any other window.

Seriously, the CCC is truly crap. I just can't believe how bad it is. It seems to take about 10 seconds to come up, and I don't run background processes, fancy themes or anything. I do wonder if the difference between those without problems and those with is those using .NET 1.1 and those using .NET 2.0 (like me), but still, it's a crap app.

It's also using RAM for no readily apparent reason. As stated earlier, saying it's okay to use RAM, any amount of RAM, simply because you have a lot, is ridiculous. WTF is it doing with that RAM anyway? It's not caching the app because if it were it'd load in an instant. So not only does it waste my RAM, it doesn't even seem to do something as useful as help it load quickly.

I am just staggered by what a terrible piece of programming and design the CCC is.

 

I guess you ppl have noticed that we`ve been bitching about this since it was first introduced and it doesn`t seem to have bothered ATi all that much...and I don`t think things will improve now, with .NET Vista just around the corner

 

Well, .net is much faster in Vista, hell all programs load up faster. BUT, Vista is also mostly shite and I won't be upgrading to it. Microsoft does not deserve anything for a shoddy half assed product. That said, it is quite dissappointing ATI decided to drop support for XP and the CP so suddenly and early, reminds me of AGP.

 

Well, since Vista hasn't left the beta stage it seems a bit pointless to judge it right now.

 

I would understand this sheer hatred of this CCC feature more if the end-user couldn't use the Control Panel or ATI Tool Trays at all! For the ones that hate the CCC; don't you have other choices to use? What's truly the big deal?

The CCC when it was first introduced was truly slow on my systems but now they've improved over time and probably still improving as time passes. Obviously my systems are not everyone else's system and understand that point. I've come to slowly like the CCC as time passes and really would hate to be wearing any 3d company's shoes. It's literally impossible to make every one happy and always going to some sort of hate club!

 

Well, the old control panel has been retired. ATI Tray Tools is a third party app, and a system tray icon is not my idea of a good UI, and it's permanently resident, also not good. The ATI tray icon means you've still got all those CLI processes wasting space.

 

People bitch simply because they have associated .net with "slow" - I don't see them complaining when they need an extra download when they have to get JRE for Azureus and their precious torrents for instance

This CP was basically the "excuse" for me to learn some C# - the problem is that it has gotten sidetracked by many things (these days I am brushing up my C++ because I need it for my new job here in Siemens). My ultimate goal basically is to create a control panel that works in both Linux and Windows (yes, ambition was never my disadvantage ) - when/if I find time to do this, I'll let you know

 

I see a LOT of bitching about the resource useage of Azereus, and every time people reply they say "because it uses Java". So I don't really think that's a good defence

 

It's not .net I use it for some other apps and find it fine, however Azereus is a hog, thats why I have it loaded on my server and not my main rig.

Add me to the list of people who hates the CCC.

I downlaoded the 6.3 with CP from ATI's site (under fireMV) but I refuse to update drivers if they do not come with the CP, I have resorted to downloading it separately.

+ I use ATI Tray tools, I find it great.

 

The solution to Azereus is to use uTorrent, a wonderful client