How small solid state HD could the PS3 have?

PS3 version of Oblivion installs 4.4Gb of gamedata... Thats the biggest install I have ever seen on ps3.

 

Yeah but the 20GB 360 only ends up with like 13GB free.

20GB=18.6GB in reality (due to that HDD size thing). Then you have a lot of system stuff preloaded.

Anyways, PS3 is using 50 GB Blu_Ray discs (25GB currently), so if we're told all that storage is needed, it seems a lot of HDD space is needed for installs also. If not, you're back to loading frequently.

I dont think 6GB is enough. It also leaves no room for downloading content. Would basically be PS3 tard pack.

I'd say minimum is 20GB. 40GB really, for my purposes (as I really dont like the 20GB on 360, it just feels too cramped).

Anyways, I dont like built in HDD in consoles. They are not worth it and are a cost center, and also make the machines very big (PS3, Xbox 1).

I also dont know if it's possible, but using 3.5" HDD's might have been nice if it could have been done form factor wise. You could get much larger capacity for similar price. However, laptop HDD prices are probably falling rapidly anyway, making it soon moot (but I could be wrong).

 

It's not optional. The game disc even spins down and doesn't get used once you start playing.

 

Hows the performance on those flash sticks compared to a HDD?

 

You do realize that the Xbox1 used PC desktop standard sized 3.5" HDD right? And that the PS3 and 360 don't?

2.5" drives are very tiny and add very little to the overall size of the console. They are very thin too. Only about 5mm thick.

Here is a photo I just took of the PS3's HD. Next to it is a Microdrive HDD from an Ipod mini (back from when they still had HDDs). And then some coins for size comparison.



Anyway people have to get out of their heads that mass storage systems make consoles big and expensive. It's 2007 for christ's sakes. It's a totally different world from the one the XBox1 was launched in. Those parallels are not going to be relevant this gen.

 

It's actually worse than that..

When I first opened my Xbox360 I checked the available storage capacity and it sat somwhere around 8GB.. 8 F***ing GB available from a 20GB HDD!!!

Eventually I checked what was on there and found the HDD came pre-loaded with a load of HD videos of... well... crap.. So I deleted it all and it gave me back a few GBs..

Still I haven't seen the available storage go any higher than 10.3GBs to date..

 

The PS3 is big because of the built in PSU, not really the tiny 2.5" HD. I prefer this over the large unwieldy external 360 brick.

 

Yes I meant to say GB.

Can someone tell me witch game offers custom/optional installation? So far every game i encountered has fixed "non negotiable" instalation.

 

I dont think the HDD will do much for the decrease in costs. How much would it cost to make a 20gb disk? not alot I think. You have 500gb disks selling for under 100 euro's, So what will a 20gb disk cost? 30euro's? Not even close I think as its a very small disk based on old tech. But even if it was, they could what half that with solid state memory? thats still only 15 euro's. Ofcourse that becomes alot if you start talking millions of ps3's but it wont do that much in terms of reducing costs.

Ofcourse all numbers are pulled out of my ass and I have no idea how close/far off I am.

 

are we talking about HDD costs or ways of reducing ps3 price by removal of features like HDMI output???

 

Genji, RR, and VF5 (though it seems to prompt you every time you start the game).

 

The biggest cost savings would have come from making the hard disk totally optional, as in the 360. Then only a nominal amount of "memory card" storage would be required for normal usage (which could be embedded as the Wii has done). Unfortunately PS3 has already crossed this bridge and will probably always need a storage disk.

A console doesn't need the speed of NAND flash memory, it just needs low cost. Why not use one of the little 1-inch and 1.5-inch hard drives that used to be all the rage in MP3 players, such as the Hitachi one seen in inefficient's picture? Those must be reasonably priced today when purchased in quantity.

A 4-6 GB micro disk would be more than enough to download demos, patches and arcade games, and hold a ton of game saves. And it would fit into a "slimline" console case nicely.

 

Arnt those small hdd's actually more expensive to produce because of their size? A standard size 20gb disk would probably be cheaper.

 

Little off topic...

I just wonder how much cooler, smaller, and the added breathing room (clocking speed) the RSX core/memory would receive, if the PSU wasn’t built into the PS3.