Highest gross salary for a Senior Software Engineer?

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  1. imaxx

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    Hello guys,

    I was wondering what is the highest yearly salary (as contractor) I could get as a Senior Software Engineer/Developer (including MS and Google ones).

    150k$? or it is somewhere between 100-150k$? 75-100k$?

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    m.
     
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    Which country?

    For instance in UK working for evil companies can earn you £100k+ (as example my friend is on £117k, but he knows people earning close to £1000 per day).
     
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    hmmm a well known multinational, not financial. Say Western Europe/UK area.

    Ugh, how can you go £1k/day/year out of management positions??? For a short term contracts it's possible, but can you really go beyond the £400-450/day for longer contracts - without getting on management, I mean.
     
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    Q.A dudes do ok, but its a job I wouldnt last long at, as I would be dragging programmers into the testing room "explain this to me numbnuts"
     
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    Thank you!
    I wish MS/Google salaries went in the pack... yet it's very useful, thank you alot.
    I recently 'moved' to the contractor's field from the consultancy one, and wanted to understand where/how I was positioned into.
     
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    Yes, £1k/day for a software developer, mainly web based, and yes, job is in finance sector (hedge funds).
    Spoke to my friend today and he says some people are doing it for longer than a year, but he personally doesn't want to stay there that long. BTW nothing to do with pressure or long hours, they work 8h/day, 5 days a week.
    Outside of finance you have to be really lucky to get above £500/day as developer, maybe in oil industry.
     
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    I was supposing it was the financial fields - the problem of getting such contracts is that... you must have had one already, in order to get one! :roll:

    Well, if the friend of your friend needs advanced ITSEC for their stuff, he can make me a whistle ...1k/day... damn, I'd work for 6 years and then retire :shock: ...on a more serious side, at least I know now that those advertised contracts are not fakes!

    It's a bit curious your sentence about the financial field... is it boring over the time? I made a software for a trader's friend once -it was all about indicators, candlesticks and some AI to grab results. Interesting, but probably after a while it might start being like accountancy software development...

    (the best i've seen excluding financial's is £3-400/day, and often for very specific skillsets)
     
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    this describes almost every job in France except doing dishes and mc donalds.
    a joke is that you need college education to answer the phone. unless if working in a call center (a pigs farm, but with people sitting at computers and phones)
     
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    I was referring to the fact that it is a very closed circle, where it was almost impossible (at least for me) to enter.
    Usually, you can find 'lower bracket' contracts that can help you accessing a segment you may be interested into (for money...), but I didn't see them for the financial field -the one that can lead you to such huge contracts.

    Whatever, I'm having fun with my work, and that's a VERY valuable thing, at the end of the day :)
     
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    Or find out what's in demand when it comes to some of the more esoteric stuff that not every CS grad can (or would want to) do. People who know, say SAS, will always be in sought after in industries that care more about things being done correctly and on time than how much they pay for it (finance, pharma, risk analysis, business analytics, etc.).
     
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    It's hard to quantify salaries at MS, or do direct comparisons, at senior and more so at principal levels a lot of the salary is bonus based or deferred.

    It would not be unusual for a high level, high performing engineer at MS add 60% to his base salary based on a combination of bonuses and stock grants.

    Having said that I understand they did some salary restructuring recently, and it's less bonus based than it used to be.
     
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    My friend got his £470 a day hedge found job without any previous finance employment, took him 3 years of trying. But granted, if you want £1k then it will be required.

    And regarding my other comment, if you're not entirely selfish and have some compassion to other people it will hurt you seeing how much money these companies are throwing around and wasting.

    Two true examples:
    1. Paying rent for 2nd most expensive London office space per square meter (large enough for 60+ developers, £1.8m/year) and hiring 3 (three) of them plus manager.
    2. IT support people and other project developers main agenda for a day is to figure out how to drag their task which can be done in few hours to last a week! Most unproductive environment my friend ever worked in!

    Obviously that is not the case 100% of time, but for instance he started that job and for 3 days no one even told him what he's expected to do.

    Anyway nice to have easy job with no stress for a change, especially if it's paid this well, even if it seems not morally right. :twisted:
     
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    don't all IT workers do that?, let's spend all our time in virtualization hoops and setting up mysql or oracle databases with transactions and replication and stuff, all for running an application so simple you could have just used a single physical server and flat files.

    also they keep old Sun servers or something to pretend to work, and browse the web in Lynx sometimes so even if someone peeks over their shoulder they appear to be working, even though they're on slashdot or reading erotica porn stories.
    they also let the phone ringing five times before answering, and their only social skills are spent trying to intidimate their users so they don't think too much about disturbing them.

    just trying to poke easy fun :lol: I know overworked people on a shoestring budget do exist as well

    my childhood has been irremediably shaped by the adventures (or rather antics) of Gaston Lagaffe, a young office worker. it will make me forever an improductive member of society. too bad the article says it has not been translated in english, maybe because it would make the global economy tank :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaston_Lagaffe#Format_and_appeal
     
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    I was looking for 3M's "one wire" technology, which as I suspected was just silly branding for a power-over-ethernet cable you can make yourself. (HP has made an all-in-one thin client that runs from PoE)

    but I stumbled upon this website which promises to make you connect with your future employer in the finance field.
    https://www.onewire.com/
    at least the video is well done and the premise is interesting - a social networking site where the employer is only allowed to view your profile after requesting you :)

    maybe it's worth trying this shit but you gotta have a high-profile, er.. profile.
     
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    @ERP: thank you, that's very interesting.

    By the way, see this US-based salary list (!) I've found.

    @Blazkowicz: the idea behind it is nice, but I doubt they can offer good IT contracts.. and restarting with low-value contracts brings you the problem of 'justifying' them to your next contractor.

    @Lightman: eh, you're right. But I'd be more worried about the finance.. they're nearly as devilish as lawyers... however, you always end up in some compromise when you work... the problem is not selling your soul ;)
     
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    Yeah, sky's pretty much the limit here if you're really good. With a BS, I think these days you can usually expect to start in the $40k-$80k range, depending upon where you get a job. You can get quite a lot more with a better degree. Eventual earnings depend hugely upon what company you go to and what your performance is (and whether your company is good about offering raises based upon performance).

    But that's for full-time employees. I really don't know what contractors can expect.
     
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    A lot also depends on the era, there have been times in the past where you could earn a stupid amount of money being a software developer. For example the pre Win95 Microsoft era, the late 90s online casino era, the dot com era in late 90s to early 00's, the sdf era of 07-09, or the early days of mobile apps. So some of it is seeing the trends and capitalizing on them when the time is right.
     
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