Graphic cards history tree, wanna help?

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  1. vlask

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    Recently i released public version of mine latest project - graphic card history tree. Want to have there all pc graphic chips makers and maybe some nonpc too (ixmicro...). So far are there all big chip makers and slowly working on less known ones.
    If some of you folks know any missing chip there or any missing info (mem size and year), let me know pls in this thread or use comments under article. Mem size is there maximum supported by chip, even if they never used that amount of memory (im looking into datasheets or release PR news). Will be happy ofc also for whole new companys trees (name of company, list of chips with year and mem sizes), but don't think that someone will be crazy like me and spend hours on google searching for 80s cards

    Article is here

    http://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/com...story-tree

    Direct link on image is in article, i wont post it here since picture have 3,8MB and 9800x47000 resolution - its just too big.
     
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    Very nice idea!
    One advice from me - use an optimized 8-bit PNG image encoding. It will reduce the file size by 2.5x factor, while retaining most of the colours. Some company logos containing gradients can become dithered, but you probably should use simpler ones anyway. ;)
     
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    Really nice.. wow i had completely forget ATI have start somewhere in 1986..

    Crazy too to see how much actors was there in the middle of the 80's, and how much are still there.
     
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    What did you use to create that image?

    DK
     
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    Nice!
    I'm not quite sure if you're going after cards based on same chips or not.
    If so the earlier radeons are quite wrong. The Radeon 7200 is a strict rebrand of the original Radeon, whereas the LE is also the same but with lower clock (and IIRC some disabled hyperz feature maybe). The VE was also rebranded as the 7000 instead.
     
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    Western Digital had a hand in the GPU industry?

    The more you know, eh?
     
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    VUE - free software, best i was able to find (have layers and full control over lines).

    Thats why png isnt 8bit optimized since i just export right into png. But will think about doin also smaller more optimized version.
     
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    Well tried to use there only chips, but with with nvidia and ati i give up. Too many models on same chip, just with different frequncy or name. So i put there all models from wiki i found and dont care if they released it year ago with different name.

    Since cant find edit post button, adding also web for VUE software which i forgot in previous post... http://vue.tufts.edu/
     
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    3DLabs "leaving graphics market" is not entirely accurate - Ziilabs is still around in embedded space. I guess mobile side with the likes of Ambarella, Qualcomm/Adreno etc would need its own chart entirely.
    Oh, and Trident still has some stuff going on on embedded side.
     
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    This will start to be really complicate then, just cause the patent survivors ...
     
  11. vlask

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    Yeah, but i'm trying to stay at PC cards area, not in mobile phones, arm graphic cores and consoles. I have there some embedded chips from s3, but trying to keep it on low numbers. Otherwise i might ended by filling in every arm processor with videologic/now imagination technologies graphic core.
     
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    Yep, fully understood, it's just the end of the line in PC side should probably indicate "switched to embedded/mobile" rather than completely exited the market for some of these.

    Oh, and Bitboys DID have a working PC Pyramid3D card : )
     
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    Me: Good, i'm gonna buy then 10 these cards :!:

    You: What, they probably never made 10 working cards

    Me: well then i rather give priority to companies which were really selling cards and ignore these prototypes (bitboys, real3d). Will add them as last, theres still many profi cards and 80s not in that chart.
     
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    Three fundamental ;) questions.

    1. Where's VideoLogic/Imagination Technologies? :p
    2. How are you going to deal with IP-licensing?
    3. How about an interactive map* so you don't have to edit image by hand?

    * This should work well in HTML5 with or w/o canvas. Canvas are pretty cool - I did some ad-hoc things** with canvas in the past and I was very surprised how well it worked out.
    ** You can click on IN pins to the left.

    //edit
    Ad 1. Oh, VideoLogic is there. But it is present on the PC today. ;)
     
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    missing are the volari Z7, Z9, Z11. those are present one some server motherboards, or marginal mini-PC and low-power boards. the chip burns something like less than two watts.

    also exists in rare and overpriced discrete boards.
    [​IMG]
    http://www.abix.fr/carte-video-2d-pcie-1x-dvi-i-2w,article,305005.html?par=leguide#

    I find this smart and fascinating :).
    this feels like building a graphics card from the 90s with modern tech.
     
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    Don't blame BitBoys, only reason it didn't get to mass markets was TriTech, who got sued and closed down due some audio patent stuff.
     
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    Ad1: Dont want there mobile phones and other like that stuff. Too many different makers using same graphic design in different chipsets. And it has almost nothing to do with graphic cards at all. So i wont put there APU from amd or intel core cpus with integrated graphic part - its more for cpu chart and not for graphic one.

    Ad2: whats IP licensing? can you put in some example? you mean motorola 6845 clones or what?

    Ad3: Work is done in VUE software aimed at image maps and presentations, so its fully interactive and PNG images are only exported from software. It can also export to html, pdf, jpg, svg, rdf and xml. But i see no reason for doin interactive html - much more work and still dunno to where point links - google?, wikipedia?, mine web?. Too many choices and none can find all cards in chart.
     
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    an audio patent?
    I thought they had failed because their equipment was faulty, or their costs spiraled or something. I never knew there were killed by a patent. (though, good luck killing say Intel with one patent)
     
  19. vlask

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    Thx, added Z7 - 2004 - 128MB
    but cant find any info about Z9 - year and memory size supported
    about Z11 i found only year - 2009, but still missing memory size - anyone know these?
     
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    Well patents, but anyway, TriTech made audio chips which violated CirrusLogics patents, lost the lawsuit and closed down, apparently they couldn't pay the required royalties.
     
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