Google TV

I can't watch the vid at work, or at least I can't get any sound since I don't have headphones.

Google isn't actually offering the content, they're just providing an aggregator with a nice interface that can be searched for via an interface like Google search. Basically, they direct you to Netflix, Amazon, youtube or whatever, correct?
 
Yes, although YouTube is theirs. They can (will !) evolve that service to fit what the consumers want. They will also search the Program Guide for live TV if I understood the idea completely.

Google TV includes the ability to run _native_ third-party apps. I suspect it's via Chrome's NativeClient Netscape plugin extension.


[size=-2]McAfee and Symantec must be jumping with joy now for the potential of selling anti-malware tools for TVs. :LOL:[/size]

EDIT: I think Sony should bundle a PS Move controller with the TV. We don't need absolute position tracking for watching TV. Nonetheless, a point and click interface should be beneficial.
 
As i understood from the Keynote, it´s essentially a Web Browser Coupled with a TV and powered by the immense power of Google Could and services from here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_XJs3x3SRQ&feature=channel

With a little bit of fantasy and by watching the keynote, i gather i can have my complete set of Google Apps, like mail, calendar and docs on my TV. For more fun related stuff i can also use the google apps i know from my Android, like maps, earth, listen, books (not in europe).

From the Market i can use all the stuff that doesn´t rely on a phone, for example the streaming stuff, including Googles new streaming function of your MP3 files. Games is a given.

And porn! :)
 
If you look at the TV/device in that demo, the UI is very similar to XMB's icon list. They only need to add color to the icons, and don't make the icon title disappear. :)

[size=-2]I'm a little nervous Sony may mess up my XMB... even though I agree a change is needed.[/size]
 
patsu said:
Sony should make it available on PS3 XMB also. :p
I was told the JavaScript compiler is non-trvial to do/optimize for another CPU.
Heck, I'd be happy if Sony port WebKit alone to PS3. WebKit's JavaScriptCore is fast too.
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Sony is bringing GoogleTV to Bravia televisions. New models have Intel Atom chip to run internet services. GoogleTV is a mix of Chrome/Android platform, so expect to see a lot of Android (tv) games in a new Goole App Store.
 
Eh... Steve Job says...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/steve-jobs-on-tv-no-one-wants-to-buy-a-box/

The problem with innovation in the TV industry is the go to market strategy. The TV industry has a subsidized model that gives everyone a set top box for free. So no one wants to buy a box. Ask TiVo, ask Roku, ask us... ask Google in a few months.

So all you can do is ADD a box to the TV. You just end up with a table full of remotes, a cluster of boxes... and that's what we have today. The only way that's going to change is if you tear up the set top box, give it a new UI, and get it in front of consumers in a way they're going to want it. The TV is going to lose in our eyes until there is a better go to market strategy... otherwise you're just making another TiVo.
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They were talking about this on the radio today, whilst jobs maybe right in ppl buying a box hasnt been popular, what makes this different is Ive heard this will be included in some tv's in the near future, i.e. NO more separate box.
 
Revamping the TV experience....

Frankly, I don't watch TV anymore. The web is more than sufficient to give me the latest news. Digital downloads, Blu-ray movies and 3D cinema give me all my film needs. I don't like too many re-runs on TV and cable.

In a related news:
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2010/06/02/sony_creating_playtv2_pvr_for_ps3

According to an interview with Spong, Sony Cambridge Studio's Mark Green has confirmed that an updated version of the PVR is coming, dubbed PlayTV2.
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If TV signal goes through PS3, I think Sony can do interesting things to/with the content. ^_^

Someone should integrate TV with web. The PrimeSense video tag demo (similar to some EU interactive cable channels, and selected Blu-ray discs) is also interesting.

Google TV is text-based. Cell can do media based search (sketch, image and face [photo] recognition, plus others).

Next gen cable set-top box (tru2way) has a Java stack similar to Blu-ray's. The cable companies have been deploying them for about 2 years now.

Soooooo many possibilities.
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Surely such searches are server based?
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The client may reduce the search term from a voice/hum/whistle/photo/video to a "text token" and send it to the server to search.
[size=-2]That way, you can reuse the entire google text search framework.[/size]
 
patsu said:
The client may reduce the search term from a voice/hum/whistle/photo/video to a "text token" and send it to the server to search.
[size=-2]That way, you can reuse the entire google text search framework.[/size]
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Google API / Android SDK voice and image searches are "cloud based" -- they allow you to implement / extend the classes to use your own, but if you use the standard "Google" searches, it sends the binary data up to google for processing:

http://developer.android.com/resources/articles/speech-input.html

They could conceivably implement an entirely client based audio/video search, but I doubt they will... that just goes against their whole model.

Google's Voice Search application, which is pre-installed on many Android devices, responds to a RecognizerIntent by displaying the "Speak now" dialog and streaming audio to Google's servers -- the same servers used when a user taps the microphone button on the search widget or the voice-enabled keyboard.

Google's servers currently support English, Mandarin Chinese, and Japanese. The web search model is available in all three languages, while free-form has primarily been optimized for English. As we work hard to support more models in more languages, and to improve the accuracy of the speech recognition technology we use in our products, Android developers who integrate speech capabilities directly into their applications can reap the benefits as well.
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Client-based audio/video search ? You can do that now without google's help. You only need to have google bot crawl your database/list of "media key" to media linkage. :)

makattack said:
they allow you to implement / extend the classes to use your own, but if you use the standard "Google" searches, it sends the binary data up to google for processing:
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Exactly. Once you can customize the search paradigm, you can layer your search any way you want since google is "just" a very powerful search cloud.
 
patsu said:
Client-based audio/video search ? You can do that now without google's help. You only need to have google bot crawl your database/list of "media key" to media linkage. :)
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That's still server based processing... unless this "Google Bot" is something you install locally on your clients... but I googled google for "google bot client" but can only find a reference to their server-side bot (their web crawler/spider):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googlebot
 
Of course they are server-based. That's what we want. But to be able to, say, extract/recognize some patterns from a running video or other private media may require some local CPU/Cell trick.

EDIT: Ah I see where the confusion is. By "without google's help", I meant they can't really stop me from "customizing" their search paradigm, bots and search indices.
 
patsu said:
Of course they are server-based. That's what we want. But to be able to, say, extract/recognize some patterns from a running video or other private media may require some local CPU/Cell trick.

EDIT: Ah I see where the confusion is, by "without google's help", I meant they can't really stop me from "customizing" their search paradigm, bots and search indices.
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Ahhh... right, but this is all in context with Google TV, correct? Google TV sounds to me like a ChromeOS/Android platform designed as an embedded OS for use in televisions or other media players, right?

Now, I can certainly see someone creating a server based system like a TiVo that has an embedded HTTP server/streaming server, that can serve content to other devices in the home / on the internet, much like a media server would -- but I don't believe ChromeOS/Android/Google TV is really designed to be a server OS. It's more of a client OS -- and a "thin" one at that -- one that's designed for accessing content on the internet/cloud.

As such, I really don't see why anyone would use ChromeOS/Android/GoogleTV to implement a server type solution when there are much better options out there now... namely: Linux.
 
It is discussed in the context of a client (with a powerful processor) using google to search media without text input from the user directly. It should be doable in Android or a PS3 XMB app or iPhone OS.
 
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