Forza Motorsport [XBSX|S, PC, XGP]

[Opeth]

Surprised there wasn't a thread for this already.

I think its looking great so far, the mirror like race traced reflections leave a lot to be desired IMO but the texture work is looking really good. Not a fan of the piss filter on Laguna though!

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[davis.anthony]

I hope they allow RTGI in gameplay on the PC version or hope it can be modded in.

 

[Nesh]

The detail is nuts. Even insignificant objects received impressive attention. There is believable subsurface scattering on cones as well as dirt and erosion

 

[Opeth]

I hope they allow RTGI in gameplay on the PC version or hope it can be modded in.

Definitely! If it doesn't make it's way to the PC can we conclude it's because of parity reasons? Probably not as simple as that huh

 

[Silent_Buddha]

The wear and tear (for example chipped and missing paint from rocks thrown up by cars in front) is impressive on the cars. The damage from collisions is also impressive.

Can't wait to see what Playground end up doing with this engine update.

Regards,
SB

 

[Seanspeed]

The detail is nuts. Even insignificant objects received impressive attention. There is believable subsurface scattering on cones as well as dirt and erosion

Everything looks amazing except for one nitpick I have, and one that matters given the game's genre - bare metal material shaders are still dull and dated looking to a degree. It's a problem Forza has had for a while now and I was really expecting this game to overhaul this drastically, but I'm still seeing the same problem. It's better, but it's still not quite up to par with basically everything else, so stands out. Where I notice it most tends to be the wheel rims, though it can be seen on the engines on the rarer occasions where those are actually prominent.

But yea, otherwise, it's definitely shaping up to be a proper next gen experience. The upgrade to environmental detail in particular is beyond anything we've seen in a sim-style racing game so far. And this matters a lot in terms of improving the immersiveness of the experience.

 

[davis.anthony]

Everything looks amazing except for one nitpick I have, and one that matters given the game's genre - bare metal material shaders are still dull and dated looking to a degree. It's a problem Forza has had for a while now and I was really expecting this game to overhaul this drastically, but I'm still seeing the same problem. It's better, but it's still not quite up to par with basically everything else, so stands out. Where I notice it most tends to be the wheel rims, though it can be seen on the engines on the rarer occasions where those are actually prominent.

But yea, otherwise, it's definitely shaping up to be a proper next gen experience. The upgrade to environmental detail in particular is beyond anything we've seen in a sim-style racing game so far. And this matters a lot in terms of improving the immersiveness of the experience.

The headlight lenses are still well below Gran Turismo too.

 

[Johnny Awesome]

Not really.

 

[Jay]

I don't expect them to.
But I think FM could actually work well as a shadow drop.
Doubt it's going to get huge marketing, long standing smaller appeal game with long tails. There pretty close to GAAS.
Could be wrong I'm also seeing it as a min 4+ year title.

Start marketing day off release, or even week later and call it early access. Let the players hype it up.

80% of people who are intrested in it will know it got released the very same day.

 

[Opeth]

I don't expect them to.
But I think FM could actually work well as a shadow drop.
Doubt it's going to get huge marketing, long standing smaller appeal game with long tails. There pretty close to GAAS.
Could be wrong I'm also seeing it as a min 4+ year title.

Start marketing day off release, or even week later and call it early access. Let the players hype it up.

80% of people who are intrested in it will know it got released the very same day.

I agree, FM doesn't pull weight like it used to, thanks to the popularity of Horizon and the stagnation or even regression of the motorsport titles (FM4 was sublime). FM has become more niche, and niche products thrive on word of mouth. Assetto Corsa when released was a niche and brilliant but very restricted sim, but through word of mouth the title gained huge popularity thanks to the positive word of mouth around it. FM needs to hit this level of glowing player feedback to thrive like the series once did. Maybe gamepass makes all this slightly less important but man I just want another brilliant Forza Motorsport game that fires on all cylinders ala FM4.

 

[SmooTh]

Guess not much FM at the Showcase

Tune in to the Xbox Games Showcase on June 11th for an up-close look at the cars, and see a full walkthrough of our single player career gameplay during Forza Monthly on June 13th!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661794355789561857

 

[davis.anthony]

Yes!!!

I hope to god the PC version has RTGI during gameplay and not just replays like the Xbox version.

 

[eastmen]

Guess not much FM at the Showcase

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661794355789561857

I think it's either getting its own showcase later on or its just going to be avalible for purchase after the show and there isn't much point to have a long demo of it.

 

[davis.anthony]

Confirmed the PC version will have option for RTGI!!!!!

Forza Motorsport will feature Ray Traced Global Illumination on PC - OC3D

Forza Motorsport will look best on PC when it launches this October Forza Motorsport will feature PC-only graphics options, which will include RTGI In a new FAQ about Forza Motorsport, Turn 10 Studios has confirmed that Forza Motorsport will feature PC-exclusive graphical options when the game...

www.overclock3d.net

 

[Opeth]

Confirmed the PC version will have option for RTGI!!!!!

Forza Motorsport will feature Ray Traced Global Illumination on PC - OC3D

Forza Motorsport will look best on PC when it launches this October Forza Motorsport will feature PC-only graphics options, which will include RTGI In a new FAQ about Forza Motorsport, Turn 10 Studios has confirmed that Forza Motorsport will feature PC-exclusive graphical options when the game...

www.overclock3d.net

This is a big deal

 

[Seanspeed]

So the career mode is just.......weird. They are basically just, as usual, rejigging what they've always done, which is just weird mishmashes of events instead of building a proper CAREER mode.

I've been such a longtime Forza Motorsport fan, but I'm really losing faith. They've had so much time to completely reboot the franchise, and it really just looks like any new standard entry, just changing up a few things here and there as always. There's absolutely nothing here that looks like they've used those seven years of development time to really rethink and rebuild any of the fundamentals except maybe the economy.

Unless they're just really terrible at showing it or something - god I want to be able to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm just not seeing it.

EDIT: Oh man, you cant just buy upgrades for your car anymore, you first have to 'level' the car up by using it, and then spending Car Credits(which is just a hilariously weird way of saying money/currency). I dont mind the idea of spending more time with individual cars, but many cars just drive terribly out the gate, or simply might need certain upgrades to be competitive in a specific race/series. I can see it being frustrating having to go 'grind levels' for your car first to be able to unlock these upgrades(that you still seemingly have to pay for?).

EDIT2: More details - there's the standard monetization. Instead of offering free cars updates like GT Sport/GT7, they're still gonna charge for car packs and whatnot. Also, all progression systems require an online connection. Woof.

My only big hope at this point is that the AI is as good as they're making it sound, where they say it's as fast as the fastest drivers *without cheating*, and that's a big old Press X for Doubt to me. That said, if the AI can be genuinely competitive at higher difficulties, that will probably still be enough for me to have a good time with the game. I mean, I'll be getting it at some point no matter what(just need a new PC first...), but I really was hoping for a more drastic overhaul than just the graphics.

 

[BRiT]

They're still offering free tracks and cars over time.

 

[eastmen]

They're still offering free tracks and cars over time.

Yup there will be cars that are covered through other contracts that will require them to sell them at a cost.

 

[Seanspeed]

They're still offering free tracks and cars over time.

We'll get some token cars for free as we have with the last few entries, but they said they're still doing car packs, which means the vast majority of new cars are gonna be behind a paywall, as always.

 

[BRiT]

I haven't read through all of this, but here is a write-up for Forza Motorsport June 2023 Update:

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/17466893801619-Forza-Motorsport-June-2023-Update