Formula 1 - 2021 Season

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kaotik, Dec 27, 2020.

  1. Lightman

    Lightman Veteran Subscriber

    That was nice to watch :D
    In general, I don't mind this format, but prefer classic Q.
     
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  2. Kaotik

    Kaotik Drunk Member Legend

    Make the reverse grid based on points rather than qualifying, problem solved
     
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  3. zed

    zed Legend

    yes its a common sense suggestion, that many ppl have thought of (here me here back in 2014 saying the same)
    https://forum.beyond3d.com/posts/1809376/

    now for qualification how to do that?
    let it not be a qualification but a timetrail sprint, I think its 25 points for first in the race right
    well on saturday everyone does a lap, 5 points for quickest > 4,3,2,1 (so top 5 fastest get points) maybe do this 3 times
    It would certainly make the qualification much more exciting, like football F1 is quite easy to improve, though unlike football they seem to be more receptive to changing stuff so who knows if they improve things
     
  4. entity279

    entity279 Veteran Subscriber

    FIA (or whoever) want 3 events for the weekend so yes some sort of qualy would still be needed. For this requirement, the reverse champ points sprint won't fit.

    Anyway, with the format on trial here at Silverstone, I also don't think I like how the 1 - lap pace becomes irelevant. Everybody tunes their car largely for the race, since the sprint gives an extra opportunity to recover places. Results in less out-of-position drivers come race day, except in the case of crashes
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2021
  5. And how many times is this Hamilton driving others off the road? (And if course as usual getting off unscathed himself).
     
  6. pharma

    pharma Veteran

    We should know soon who is at fault ... Looks like Max tried to pinch Lewis.
     
  7. AlphaWolf

    AlphaWolf Specious Misanthrope Legend

    I'm curious how you came to that conclusion. I expect 'racing incident', but if they find fault usually the driver who is behind is blamed. In this case, Hamilton.
     
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  8. What? Hamilton had plenty of space. You can even see from Hamilton's onboard that a Verstappen is moving to the racing line and Hamilton is simply driving into him. That is a very fast corner, you can simply jump from one line to another to squeeze somebody.

    Also Jensen said in his mind it looked like Hamilton missed the Apex and that cause him to run wide.

    From the on boards it certainly doesn't look to me Hamilton wasn't given space. Looked more like Hamilton ran into Verstappen.
     
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  9. pharma

    pharma Veteran

    Just listening to commentary as we wait.
     
  10. Well there you go. Just ram your main competitor off the road. Hope somebody pays back the favor and wraps him around a concrete wall.
     
  11. nutball

    nutball Veteran Subscriber

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    Last edited: Jul 18, 2021
  12. Globalisateur

    Globalisateur Globby Veteran Subscriber

    What Hamilton just did is his speciality. For instance he did the same exact thing in 2019 to Albon (Brazil). He is going the inside, without having the advantage, and is aiming the rear tyre of his opponent with his front tyre. There is nothing the guy in front can do against this.

    Stewards should really review previous past 'incidents' caused by Hamilton and they would easily see a pattern.
     
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  13. Freemantle

    Freemantle Newcomer

    Great race, Red Bull and Horner can be soo cocky, it's only hard and fair racing when Max comes out on top apparently.

    I also need to step away from YouTube, I'm having too much fun. On to the next.
     
  14. Bludd

    Bludd Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall Veteran

    very spicy but imho a racing incident
     
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  15. Jay

    Jay Veteran

    I've watched so many breakdowns on it now.
    Racing incident but reasonable penalty all things considered I guess.
    Or maybe drive through if wanted to go up a penalty.

    Everyone says it's max so you know what he's like, but you can't keep being the one to back out given the position of the championship.
    They both could've avoided it, even if Lewis was slightly more to blame.
     
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  16. Kaotik

    Kaotik Drunk Member Legend

    This is the point where we really get to weight Maxes balls. Obviously he belives Hamilton is about 400 % at fault here - can he keep his cool or will he go planning on revenge
     
  17. Globalisateur

    Globalisateur Globby Veteran Subscriber

    So why I think it was Max's corner and Hamilton did it on purpose (and he already done exactly this in the past)

    - Max had the advantage.
    - Hamilton had actually missed this corner, he was going too fast with his trajectory and he had to brake more than usual after the contact in order to stay on the track but inevitably he lost valuable time: We can see Leclerc easily overtaking him just after. He would never have never done that if he was alone. But his aim was to crash Max, and he could have killed him in that super fast corner.

    I hope Max takes his revenge and do the same exact thing if he is behind him next time. I mean, 10 secondes penalty? that's cheap.
     
  18. Jay

    Jay Veteran

    I hope so too. Then max will get another DNF while Lewis goes on to win. (edit - think I should add I obviously don't think it's a good idea)

    Anybody that thinks you can do that and guarantee that you don't come out worse or the same hasn't watched much F1 over the years.

    Max does overly aggressive moves all the time, but most drivers give way as they know he is less likely to give way.
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2021
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  19. Bludd

    Bludd Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall Veteran

    yeah will be interesting to see if max is mature enough to put this behind him and not do a vettel

    im just happy nobody is totally running away with the championship, though if it was one of my guys at the front i would be totally fine with them running away with it but since i dont favor max or lewis, i just want to see good fighting at the front :)
     
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