Formula 1 - 2018 Season

Oh but it is very different, eg current world cup odds (since most of the football comps seasons are nearly over)

1 Germany 5.00
2 France 6.50
3 Brazil 5.50
4 Spain 7.00
5 Argentina 10.00
7 Belgium 12.00
8 England 15.00
9 Portugal 21.00
10 Colombia 31.00
11 Russia 31.00
14 Uruguay 26.00
15 Croatia 31.00
16 Mexico 81.00
18 Switzerland 81.00
19 Poland 41.00
21 Sweden 81.00
23 Japan 251.00
24 Serbia 151.00
25 Denmark 81.00
28 Nigeria 151.00
36 South Korea 301.00
38 Costa Rica 301.00
39 Australia 301.00
41 Iran 301.00
42 Iceland 201.00
43 Saudi Arabia 501.00
44 Egypt 151.00
46 Peru 151.00
47 Panama 501.00
50 Morocco 301.00
51 Tunisia 501.00
52 Senegal 126.00

saudi arabia, australia, iran etc have better odds of winning than a lot of the F1 ppl!

How the fuck does a motor sport team have worse odds than any of these football teams, in motorsport anything can happen in a race, crashes,car problems etc thats something that doesnt happen in football, eg half the german team players are not suddenly gonna break their legs during a game

heres the current F1 odds

1 Lewis Hamilton 1.60
2 Sebastian Vettel 3.00
3 Max Verstappen 21.00
4 Daniel Ricciardo 21.00
5 Valtteri Bottas 13.00
6 Fernando Alonso 251.00
7 Kimi Raikkonen 21.00
8 Nico Hulkenberg 401.00
9 Carlos Sainz 401.00
10 Stoffel Vandoorne 501.00
11 Esteban Ocon 2,001.00
12 Sergio Perez 2,001.00
13 Romain Grosjean 401.00
14 Kevin Magnussen 501.00
15 Pierre Gasly 501.00
16 Brendon Hartley 1,501.00
17 Lance Stroll 2,001.00

 

I just had a look back over the years to see if F1 was always so lopsided and yes, in fact it was worse!

60s-2000 most cars wouldnt finish & those that did apart from the 1-3 frontrunners would often be multiple laps behind more than 5 laps behind even,
2000- the field is far more close with more finishers and those that finish are no more than 1 lap behind generally

 

Curious that everyone (that I read) is reporting that Ferrari switched to the one stop strategy because of Mercedes doing so. I thought they were forced into it because of the accident.

 

That's a retarded comparison. Winning a World Cup has a ton of chance involved, have bad luck in one game and it's all over. F1 season is 21 races, long enough to rule luck out of the equation in pretty much all cases. National teams just are more even than club teams, because buying the best players doesn't really happen. Try look pre season what type of odds Bayer Munich, Barcelona or Juventus are getting, those will be a lot smaller than at World Cup.

 

Comparing odds is stupid and pointless. Whether your odds are 300 or 30.000 to one how big is the Chance of Iran winning the world cup? Have you ever looked at the countries that won the world cup? You know that ever since the first world cup was held only 8 different countries won? The Netherlands must have had pretty good odds of winning for decades, yet they never did.

If you look at F1 wold champions at a 4 year interval there is basically a different winner every time.

Its not that different if you compare with for example the Champions League. There have been 11 different winners in the past 20 years. In the past 20 years there have been 7 different F1 world champions and that includes Ferrari's long winning streak. A quick count shows 24 different race winners over the past 20 years.

 

Vettel even said so.

 

I thought I heard that they basically weren't sure what to do because of Mercedes strategy. It looked unlikely that Vettel would make it to the end of the race on that set, but it looked more unlikely that Vettel would have been able to make up 20+ seconds even on a new set of tyres and pass both Mercs. Interviews had Vettel saying that he thought that it was checkmate by Mercedes when they switched to medium tyres. If Mercedes hadn't done that and needed to pit again, Vettel would have also pitted for new tyres later in the race, as he wouldn't have a 20+ second deficit to make up.

I think the Kimi incident occurred during the period it would have been optimal for Vettel to pit for new tyres given the time he would have had to claw back. This would have pushed them further towards one-stopping.

 

They may have the manpower, but the stricken mechanic was lying in the pit box for a while, wasn't he? Beyond a certain point, Vettel doesn't have the time to come back at Mercedes even with fresher, faster tires. And even if they were able to move the guy, who knows what frame of mind the rest of the crew is in. You'd probably have to factor in a longer than usual pit stop (for emotional and safety reasons).

I know these guys are pros, but it looked like a terrible accident. Haas rotated their guys in Bahrain to avoid added pressure, and all they did was fail to tighten a wheel nut.

 

Actually yes it is, Mate I've been doing sports betting seriously for over a decade
here were the odds before the start of the group stage

Man City (ENG) 4.10
PSG (FRA) 6.10
Bayern Munich (GER) 6.10
Barcelona (SPA) 8.00
Real Madrid (SPA) 8.50
Man United (ENG) 16.00
Liverpool (ENG) 16.00
Juventus (ITA) 21.00
Tottenham (ENG) 25.00
Chelsea (ENG) 31.00
Roma (ITA) 41.00
Shaktar Donetsk (UKR) 126.00
Sevilla (SPA) 151.00
Porto (POR) 151.00
Besiktas (TUR) 201.00
Basel (SUI) 451.00

you can easily see its a lot more even, far more balanced than the F1 odds
perhaps you want me to plot them on a graph and you'll see visually they ain't anywhere near comparable

 

Did you make a lot of money with it?

Great that your odds are much more even for football but they don't mean anything if you don't consider real world results. The real world results are a few teams winning over and over again. If you compare those results with F1 they really aren't that much worse for F1, certainly not to the extent your odds would suggest.

 

A cup is very different in nature, due to getting dropped out of the competition with a loss. Check out these odd for the favourites in league European football.

https://www.sportsinsights.com/blog/2017-18-odds-to-win-la-liga-serie-a-bundesliga-and-ligue-1/

 

OK fair enuf those do resemble the F1 odds more, still not as lopsided as the F1 odds but I'll grant you its closer than the championsleague odds I posted

Chinese Grand Prix race winner odds

1 Lewis Hamilton 1.65
2 Sebastian Vettel 3.50
3 Valtteri Bottas 9.00
4 Max Verstappen 17.00
5 Daniel Ricciardo 17.00
6 Kimi Raikkonen 13.00
7 Fernando Alonso 301.00
8 Nico Hulkenberg 1,001.00
9 Carlos Sainz 1,001.00
10 Kevin Magnussen 501.00
11 Romain Grosjean 501.00
12 Stoffel Vandoorne 1,001.00
13 Pierre Gasly 1,001.00
14 Brendon Hartley 1,001.00
15 Esteban Ocon 2,001.00
16 Sergio Perez 2,001.00
17 Lance Stroll 3,001.00
18 Sergey Sirotkin 3,001.00
19 Charles Leclerc 3,001.00
20 Marcus Ericsson 3,001.00

So over half the drivers are given no chance to win the race, crazy as unlike football etc a race can end prematurely cause motor or driver errors

stuck some cash on top10, Kevin Magnussen, Marcus Ericsson and red bull to retire first

 

Verstappen cocked up that one. Could have just waited another corner or two.

 

Well Ferrari ruined one race for Vettel and two for Kimi, all in the space of one GP

 

Lisa Su from AMD as first random interview on Martin's Grid Walk! Sky Sports F1

 

Verstappen could have destroyed Vettel’s championship today.

Every point counts at the end.

Can’t watch F1 anymore these days...bs like a soap opera.

 

Your preference. I love it !

Yeah.. random hardly qualifies for her