Far Cry 2

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  1. Neb

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    There was this apart fro msome other previews. Sounds good to me becouse the shown xbox360 videos show some fugly graphics in several aspects IMO.

    Hands-on from E3 2008

    Some bits...

     
  2. jandlecack

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    I'd really love to get it on the PC and my hardware isn't an issue either to max the game out I believe, but it's just not the same as playing on a big HDTV with digital 5.1 surround sound :(
     
  3. Fox5

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    To be honest, I'd still go for the steam version. I hate dealing with boxed copies, just creates more physical clutter to deal with. Not to mention that steam's automatic fetching of the latest patches is a service I'd almost be willing to pay for.
     
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    Connect your PC to the TV and plug in a controller, done. You are now able to get the superior experience in all categories on the same platform.

    Plugin the PC to the TV is like A, B, C, done in 5 sec the rest is auto.
     
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    Until the latest patch for your favourite game makes matters worse and then you'd be willing to pay to roll up the patch. That's actually the only issue I have with Steam. (well that and the whole "Steam will make games cheaper because it cuts out the middle-man" shens)
     
  6. jandlecack

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    No, my soundcard doesn't support Dolby Digital or DTS and I doubt the game will, plus my GPU could only connect via VGA which doesn't give me the optimal picture quality. DVI->HDMI doesn't work with my TV and it doesn't have DVI in.
     
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    Valve is the new middle man. I believe all other companies only get 30% of every sale on Steam.
     
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    There's also the issue that my TV is downstairs in my living room, while my computer is upstairs in my office.
     
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    They are issues with your specific setup, not general ssues with the PC or the PC version of the game. Its more than likely the PC version will support 5.1 as most PC games do (and have done for many years).

    If DVI-HDMI doesn't work with your TV and you don't have VGA-IN then again, thats a pretty unusual setup issue and not a general PC issue. Certainly my pretty bog standard 720p HDTV has both VGA-IN and a HDMI connector that will work via a DVI convertor. If your TV doesn't and you want that functionality, nothing is stopping you getting a better one. Its no different to a console gamer who wants to game in HD and doesn't have a HDTV.

    Or you could just get a HDMI capable GPU. They are available so if you really want to be able to play the PC version as well as play on an HDTV then that option is readily available to you.

    For my part, I will try Farcry on a 360 control pad + HDTV + 5.1 surround sound and I will also try it on a big screen monitor + keyboard/mouse. I'll end up playing it on whatever setup works best but both versions will be at maximum graphics because both will be on the PC.

    Thats a completely self created issue though. I'm not saying its not valid for you personally but its certainly not a limitation of the technology. Many (many) console gamers would have the same issue because their console is in a kids bedroom no-where near the main TV/sound system in the lounge.

    If you choose to play PC games via a HDTV and 5.1 sound system, there is no technical issue with doing so. There isn't even a financial barrier to doing so since its generally cheaper than having a seperate PC with monitor and dedicated speakers.
     
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    How much do they get off of retail? Side stepping a publish may make it worthwhile on its own.
     
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    Oh give me a break, Ubisoft still only sells games on-line when you actually life in the US ?

    Idiots...

    And I swear I saw an Ubisoft exec stating this week that the european games market is getting more important than the US due to the low dollar-euro rate.

    What's the purpose of buying SW on DVDs in plastic cases these days. Not eco-friendly IMHO.
     
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    don't worry too much about VGA, it's a great analog connection and sometimes there's no difference to be seen with DVI. vid cards have had good VGA output for years and you can expect the TV to have a good input.

    I don't understand much the dolby stuff and there may be some software workaround, but you might still try anyway. (and if I understand it, if you use analog connection you don't need to encode to AC3 or DTS as they are about making 5.1 stuck on a digital connection that was meant for stereo?)

    people with a financial barrier often tend to do it the other way and have the PC with its monitor and speakers be the TV and movie player.
     
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    True, its what CRT's used for many years and they are reputed for their picture quality vs digital LCD's. In fact my setup ues VGA to the TV at the moment across a 10m cable! And the picture is still pretty much perfect (I get much better DVD qualitity via the PC than the X360 with a direct component connection for example).

    Its a bit of a complicated topic but i'm pretty sure what you say above is correct. Basically, most PC games support 5.1 sound (or better) and the usual method on the PC for utilising it is to directly pass that sound through to a reciever via mutilple analog cables, and hence no encoding.

    A lot of (most?) home theatre speaker systems don't have all the analog inputs and require sound to be fed in via a single digital connector carrying an encoded 5.1 signal (DD5.1 or DTS) which the reciever will then decode.

    Whats required from the PC is to take the standard 5.1 signal produced by the game and convert it on the fly into a DD5.1 or DTS digital signal which can be sent over a digital connector, no special support is required from the game, just the ability to output standard 5.1 sound.

    There are quite a few discrete sound cards that support real time DD5.1 encoding and some that support DTS encoding as well but as far as i'm aware, Creative cards are capable of neither of these (although its an artificial limitation of the drivers rather than the hardware itself, as you said, i think there is a software work around).

    As far as onboard sound goes, I think some (but not all) HD Audio chips support it.
     
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    Both games look awful in those comparison images. What's up with that weird dithering in the shadows in Far Cry 2?
     
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    The problem is you still need a publisher, because there's plenty of people who won't use, don't want to use online download services. Unless you're perfectly happy with reduced sales. (I give lots of games as gifts, but I'd never give someone download credit as a christmas/bday gift)
     
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    I wont use (and actually cant use) an online download service
    im a game collector and id much rather have a physical product
    you'd never find a record collector who collected mp3's
     
  18. sonix666

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    That is a bad comparison if you ask me. The choice between a record or mp3 has nothing to do with the actual medium, but the quality of the sound. A game on a physical product is in no way better than a game delivered by a online download service. I do understand your sentiment, but the argument you used is faulty. ;)
     
  19. Davros

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    well youve got a point
    so i'll change it to
    "you'd never find a record collector who collected uncompressed wav" ;)
     

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