CYBERPUNK 2077 [XO, PC, XBSX|S] [Delisted from Playstation Store]

A game as hyped as this will never live up to it. As long as its as good as Witcher 3 storywise and open world richness then im satisfied

 

I agree.

To put this into perspective, I hate driving my 1000HP car as it's just more power but still it limits me to turn steering and using pedals for acceleration and breaks. I was expecting something more from it...
But for petrol-head like me above cannot be more wrong

 

I am just wondering if the game (on PC) has the same graphical detail as the (excellent) initial behind closed doors press reveal

 

I will buy yhe game next year when I will have my PS5 and the next gen patch will be released.

 

I'm not saying it's 10/10 game as I didn't play it but review sounds like another days gone bs review, one of argument: "The incorporation of different cultures and backgrounds is wildly inconsistent, from good to inaccurate to downright offensive"

 

I did not read the GS review but PCGamer give it 78/100 too and some other test will arrive. It is a good games. The game will probably be between 85 and 90 and maybe stay at 90 but it is not perfect. Great story, writing, good quest, good RPG mechanism and choice, great graphics, much better production value than TW3(great facial animation, attention to details, world is better and more dense) but combat are average, hacking is ok, many bugs, driving is bad, chase aren't great AI is bad and so on...

EDIT: The main story is shorter than TW3 but the pacing is better and this is quality on my side.

 

Didn't they shorten the story a few months ago based on dialogue with a review group? I'm hoping that can be added back via DLC patch if required.

Edit: IGN review gave this a 9, which I believe is higher than the Witcher series (except the Witcher 2 Enhanced version).

 

No they reduce the main story because many peoples did not finish the Witcher 3 because the game was very long.

But there is tons of things to do in side quest.

 

Looking at his review history, this guy is generous. His average score is 8.5!!!
https://opencritic.com/critic/1047/jeff-grubb
I wonder why he scored it so low!
Users' reviews are the best indicator of a games's quality for me.

 

Luckily I'm too old to know better than read reviews made by people with different agendas and skew my view on the world through their views.
I love playing RPG games and do it mainly for story and interaction with game characters. I enjoy discovering little secrets, Easter eggs, or go through emotions and stories game is trying to portray.

This is not and will not be a game for everyone, that was the case with Mass Effect, The Witcher or Dragonage and will stay that way with CP2077.

I liked Young Yea YT review, as he is original CP fan and can appreciate little nuances this game offers.

 

Toms Hardware did provide some performance data even though they do not have official drivers from AMD or Nvidia. I'd expect some improvement after proper drivers and day 1 patch.
Cyberpunk 2077 Performance Preview and Initial Impressions | Tom's Hardware

 

Some reviewers are probably afraid to give the game a high grade because of the twitter of the CDPR company making fun of trans issues.
You can create a character with both male and female parts, which I believed would be good and progressive, however, this apparently is offensive to people who actual have those issues. And if that was not bad enough, on twitter CDPR were ridiculing the types of people who take offensive with no options or in this case not enough options.

If IRL a human who looks like what people would call a woman, but this human wants to have a penis, then this is good for the human of course if the human lives in a first world country where this can happen. But if somebody finds this attractive, then this person is wrong because the person is fetishising it. But if somebody does not find it attractive that a person looks like a traditional something, but has a traditional something else underneath then that person is also wrong because the person is not respectful towards trans issues.

So in the game it's a lose-lose situation. Not having trans people or options is wrong, but having them is wrong also because some people like it.
The developers should not have taunted the social people on twitter though, because that is bullying

 

My pre-download has started. It will take 102GB of space of my PS5 storage

 

At least I was born at a time where there were only two genders and I know that I'm a man. I have no doubts about myself, can take criticism and know what I'm expected to do to provide my family as a man and defend it when needed, even at the cost of my own life. People nowdays have not enough real problems, like what to eat to survive so they are creating different 'problems' and shout about them. If I encounter persons like that, I ignore them and move on, like in a proper RPG, you have a choice.
Just to be clear, I have no problem if someone is gay or bi or less. I have very good lesbian friends, but they are nowhere near like some of these people on internet taking issue with everything as you described it.

Anyway, can't wait to try CP2077 and see what awaits me in that game, but I will play as a male with all the male parts in the right places, see if in 2077 you can still have meaningful relationships and watch that place burn!

EDIT: PC version preload is 58GB

 

Arstechnica.com review says

Isn't that on almost all open world games? As soon as the "police meter timer thingy" timed out (hidden or visible on hud), NPCs forgets you.

I think it's only elders scrolls and Mafia 2 that have NPCs that can remember you.

Skyrim "don't steal my sweet roll"

Mafia 2 "officer! That's the guy that robbed my store/gas station!"

 

Jeff Grubb tweet

"I don't want a world that just suggests more. I want a game that enables me to do more. And any time you see Cyberpunk suggesting a possibility, you're bound to be disappointed that you cannot actually do much with it. Stick to the quests. Enjoy the characters. That's great."

Fair enough statement but the question is does he have the same expectation for every game he reviews and score them to the same standards? Looking at previous scores his given to other games no he doesn't.

I find this a massive failing with reviews these days. For some inexplicable reason reviewers tend to have different standards for different games.

 

It does kind of come across as him giving it a bad review just because the game has gotten more attention than other games that he's reviewed, which is kind of a dick move, IMO.

But, whatever. It doesn't matter to me whether anyone else likes the game or not. All that matters is whether I'll like the game or not. Just the fact that it's the closest thing we've gotten to the original PC version of Deus Ex is enough for me to get excited.

Now, if it can actually exceed the original Deus Ex, it'll instantly be one of my top 10 games ever released. But I won't know that until I play it, and I may not get the time to play it for a while yet. /sigh.

Regards,
SB

 

Same for me, Deus Ex is very close to my heart so that type of game in an open world makes me giddy but I will have to wait for a discounted price.

 

I watched his review and it's perfectly fair criticism. He's totally fair about how you may really like the game and why it fell a little short for him.

He is keying into my own bias. I'm bored of the facade of current gen cities too. (But may still pick up and enjoy Cyberpunk at some point. More likely to play it for a bit, coo at the nice graphics and then get annoyed, like with other CPR games)