Catalyst 4.10 and Quake 3 engine games with punkbuster.

What does ai have to do with punkbuster ?

Once again your transfering the blame from the company making the shoddy product to ati.

ANd i'm sure your able to test it and use it just fine when you don't use buggy software like punkbuster.

Yes i know the tab for geometry instancing and no it doesn't come in play with farcry as the patch 1.2 was recalled. Its there so they can pass whql certification. Long post about this in another forum some time ago.

THere are no pb games , there are games that use shody pb software which you can disable .




Your just not understanding that you need to contact the company that makes punkbuster and have them fix thier problems with ati and nvidia cards .

You keep getting upset with ati when obviously its not an ati specific problem. Its a punkbuster problem.

 

Godfatha, I found this over at driverheaven.


QUOTE FROM SODNIK:

"I've found a soloution for all CoD-players.It's a Punkbusterproblem!

Firstly you (I think) must have Windows Xp sp2 installed
and disable DEP (Data Execution Prevention), to do this edit your Boot.ini file. (Right-Click My Computer --> Properties --> System Properties --> Advanced --> Startup and Recovery --> Settings --> Edit)

Change /NoExecute=OptOut to /NoExecute=AlwaysOff

THE OTHER LINES SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED (IE multi(0)disk ... ) as that is the location of your XP installation and is system specific.

Run msconfig and under boot.ini it should look like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=AlwaysOff



Enjoy your punkbuster games without freezes!"


http://driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=58706&page=5&pp=15



Hope this works for you and your peeps. If it does you can thank sodnik yourself. Make sure you tell us if it works.

Peace.



EDIT: Sorry but I read a little further down and this fix only works for the newest catalyst and omega drivers. And you must have SP2 installed as well. Visit the thread for more info I guess.

 

Re: not exactly...

Try the 8.07 Beta driver: http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4649.html

It fixes a memory bug with ATI's 256 MB cards. The performance is excellent, although I haven't played any punkbuster-enabled on-line games. So far, I've found it to work fine with both the CCC and the original CP (the driver in the above link comes with the original CP and no WDM driver, but if you want the CCC and/or the WDM, you can download each separately from ATI). I hope this helps.

P.S.
I know what you mean about support for older on-line multiplayer games - I still play HaloPC regularly!

 

I submitted this bug to Even Balance and theyreplied with "We are working on finding the conflict for this issue".

 

Does it affect every system or just "some" - I assume it's some, and I am just considering to upgrade to 4.10 with 9800.

 

Ok just to report back, latest Omega drivers based on Cat 4.10 beta - standard OGL driver selected - no crashes, everything smooth...I played Wolf ET: for 1hr plus...

that is on A3000+ Nf3 250, Win2K, R9800

 

me uses the 4.9 beta driver, and i have lockups with CoD+pb

gfx is a 9800 pro

hope somebody finds a solution, don't want to downgrade


mfg hoodoo

 

The best solution is to use the Cat 4.9 or the beta 8.07 (which is a later build of the 4.10 Cats anyways). There is no way to use the Cat 4.10s with Punkbuster enabled servers.

The stuttering problem that may have been mentioned, is a whole different issue altogether.

NVidia introduced something like this in the 52.16... and I definately did not like it. Although the developers of Punkbuster addressed the problem, NVidia is the culprit (the developers claim some bad backward compatibility somewhere).

Although ATI is at fault here, you still have the options NOT TO USE the 4.10 Cats... (because most likely the next official version will have the fix - as the beta Cats show)

Edit: Yes, I'm a victim of this problem.. but I used the beta Cat 8.07 and have been done with this issue. Using a Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB

This problem is ONLY related to Punkbuster (and whatever OpenGL game that uses it). The problem and fix are the same for all hardware (Cats 4.10 are the culprit, other Cats like the 4.9 and beta Cat 8.07 have no problem)...

I hope this helps you.

 

Godfatha certzin folks feel that ATI is their love child and must be defended at all costs. I had the same problem, cat 4.1+x800 xt+ urbanterror=lockups and it was quite annoying. If it is PB's fault ATI should stillhelp PB fix it.

Anyway I messed about quite a lot and the lockups went away, but I am not really sure why, perhaps PB was updated.

 

Make sure you're installing cleanly...

First, you do the recommended uninstall.

Second, you install the 8.07 Cats.

Third, you install the CCC by extracting the 4.10 Cats installer and just running the CCC installer.

It doesn't seem you got it installed properly.. I got it working just fine.

You shouldn't be installing newer/older drivers over newer/older drivers. You must install cleanly.

 

I did find when going from the 8.07 betas to the official 4.10 that I couldn't get a properly working install (despite doing a correct uninstall first) until I ran the ATI cleaner to start from a totally blank registry ATI-wise.

You might want to try that, ie

1. Run the ATI driver cleaner and reboot.
2. Do a install of 8.07 drivers.
3. Extract the 4.10 CCC and install that only.

 

I recently installed a 9600XT for a friend and the latest omega drivers and the cat 4.10s were locking up. The 4.9s were just stuttering.

I ended up using the 4.1s and they are now working fine.

What a pain in the ass.

PS. yes, i uninstalled properly and used driver cleaner.

 

Stuttering on ATi cards may be related to some software running in the background of your PC.

In my case it was the personal firewall (Kerio) i'm running.