big 3d hdtv recommendation request.
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Cleveland Plasma carries the Panasonic TC-P65VT25 for $3,800 right now. That is the best TV currently being sold. The 58" version is $2,800, and the 54" is $2,550.
They carry the Samsung PN63C8000 for $3000. That is another great choice and I don't think the 65" Panny is worth the extra $800.
Sorry I don't know how the Euro prices compare.
They carry the Samsung PN63C8000 for $3000. That is another great choice and I don't think the 65" Panny is worth the extra $800.
Sorry I don't know how the Euro prices compare.
The P65VT20 Panny is 31.695 DKK here in Denmark, which equates to $5935 ($4748 without VAT). We can't even buy the VT25 yet.
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The P65VT20 Panny is 31.695 DKK here in Denmark, which equates to $5935 ($4748 without VAT). We can't even buy the VT25 yet.
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Holy crap
FWIW the VT20 is essentially identical to the VT25 so no reason to worry about that.
Panasonic have like different models and sizes for different regions. Even the similar model will have different features in different regions. I think there is also Mitsubishi Laservue in that size.
For your budget I think the recommended Samsung is your best bet. The Panasonic isn't that much better.
For your budget I think the recommended Samsung is your best bet. The Panasonic isn't that much better.
Does Samsung PS63C7705XXE ring any bells to anyone, would I be making a huge mistake if I bought that? Is it old? loud? very very hot? It's 3200 euros as of now...
I've never had a plasma tv and the only way to get it would be delivered to home so with no comparisons or anything I feel like buying a pig in a sack.
I would be using it for console games and 3d blu rays.
Alternatively I could get 55" led tv LG 55LX950N.
I kind of feel like bigger is better though.
I've never had a plasma tv and the only way to get it would be delivered to home so with no comparisons or anything I feel like buying a pig in a sack.
I would be using it for console games and 3d blu rays.
Alternatively I could get 55" led tv LG 55LX950N.
I kind of feel like bigger is better though.
Kinda hard to tell, but that looks to be the equivalent of the 7000 series plasmas they offer here in the states. I use the 50" version of that to demo 3D to customers, and it is definitely a great TV.
The differences between that and the 8000 series are few but important IMHO. For example, the 7000 do not have the "Cinema Smooth" mode to display 24Hz material correctly. 7000 series also lacks the "Real Black Filter" found on the 8000 series that preserves black levels better in high light conditions. The other key feature missing from the 7000 series is motion interpolation like you get with 120+Hz LCDs, also found on the 8000 series. Personally I would only use this feature for sports, but it's nice to have.
It is worth noting that Samsung lists the Real Black Filter on the product page for the PS63C7705, although this could be a mistake.
http://www.samsung.com/fi/consumer/...SXXE/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&returnurl=
As for plasma vs LCD, I cannot think of any reason to get an LCD these days unless you plan to use it primarily as a PC monitor. Plasma offers more value at every price point, and IMHO even the midrange plasmas look better than the über expensive LED-backlit LCDs, aside from the über über expensive full array local dimming LED-backlit models which are actually quite difficult to find these days.
The differences between that and the 8000 series are few but important IMHO. For example, the 7000 do not have the "Cinema Smooth" mode to display 24Hz material correctly. 7000 series also lacks the "Real Black Filter" found on the 8000 series that preserves black levels better in high light conditions. The other key feature missing from the 7000 series is motion interpolation like you get with 120+Hz LCDs, also found on the 8000 series. Personally I would only use this feature for sports, but it's nice to have.
It is worth noting that Samsung lists the Real Black Filter on the product page for the PS63C7705, although this could be a mistake.
http://www.samsung.com/fi/consumer/...SXXE/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&returnurl=
P.S. here's a tip. The 7000 series and 8000 series plasmas are physically identical aside from the Real Black Filter. It is possible to go into the service menu on the 7000 series and change the model # to 8000 series, and get all the features of the 8000 series. Yes I have done this and it works.
As for plasma vs LCD, I cannot think of any reason to get an LCD these days unless you plan to use it primarily as a PC monitor. Plasma offers more value at every price point, and IMHO even the midrange plasmas look better than the über expensive LED-backlit LCDs, aside from the über über expensive full array local dimming LED-backlit models which are actually quite difficult to find these days.
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Talk about confusing product names...
So maybe 8000 series is 7000 series in europe, just rebranded?
I would be surprised if the thing didn't have that real black filter feature if its marketted like that.
also they seem to list cinema smooth on the specs page http://tinyurl.com/3yo3xj3 (Kyllä means yes in Finnish)
So maybe 8000 series is 7000 series in europe, just rebranded?
I would be surprised if the thing didn't have that real black filter feature if its marketted like that.
also they seem to list cinema smooth on the specs page http://tinyurl.com/3yo3xj3 (Kyllä means yes in Finnish
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Talk about confusing product names...
So maybe 8000 series is 7000 series in europe, just rebranded?
I would be surprised if the thing didn't have that real black filter feature if its marketted like that.
also they seem to list cinema smooth on the specs page http://tinyurl.com/3yo3xj3 (Kyllä means yes in Finnish
These companies have been known to have erroneous product pages, so I would check into that on AVS forum or something. I know they listed the C7000 as having Cinema Smooth for a while and I can confirm that it does not.
But in different region the features maybe different though. That's why the model number is different. It's like Panasonic S2 for America and S20 for Europe. They are the same S series comes with similar features but there are some difference, AFAIK. And as for Samsung C7000 is flagship model in other regions so it may have all the features of the C8000 like Cinema Smooth.
tritosine5G
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=193
-are you aware of the ghosting issue?
LED backlit LCD, plasma = ghosting
DLP TV, PJ = zero ghosting
europe = zero DLP TV, only PJ
http://www.vidimensio.eu = tired of ghosting, hence imported DLP TV, even Laservue.
-are you aware of the ghosting issue?
LED backlit LCD, plasma = ghosting
DLP TV, PJ = zero ghosting
europe = zero DLP TV, only PJ
http://www.vidimensio.eu = tired of ghosting, hence imported DLP TV, even Laservue.
tritosine5G
Newcomer
Oh, and about the checkerboard pattern on DLP TV's.
-That will be a though nut to crack
Pixel structure is way different (better) than usual to begin with:
http://pcm54.tvn.hu/tga2.r.gif
http://pcm54.tvn.hu/tga2.d.gif
-That will be a though nut to crack
Pixel structure is way different (better) than usual to begin with:
http://pcm54.tvn.hu/tga2.r.gif
http://pcm54.tvn.hu/tga2.d.gif
