Best widescreen 20" LCD for image quality and gaming performance?

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rootbeer

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Seems Dell's are having some color banding issues. Any other options that provide great image quality and gaming performance?
 
rootbeer said:
Seems Dell's are having some color banding issues. Any other options that provide great image quality and gaming performance?
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I thought that was the 24" dells, and even then I am not too sure it is accurate. The only picture I have seen looks normal enough...

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Ah I see the new 2007fpw has this issue supposedly. Well just buy an old 2005fpw instead for much less $ :) You give up hdcp though ah well.
 
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Sxotty said:
I thought that was the 24" dells, and even then I am not too sure it is accurate. The only picture I have seen looks normal enough...

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Ah I see the new 2007fpw has this issue supposedly. Well just buy an old 2005fpw instead for much less $ :) You give up hdcp though ah well.
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Well I don't care about HDCP, I have a 50" Fujitsu Plasma, I don't plan on using this for that kind of content.

Is the older 2005fpw equal in all other respects? Image quality and response time? Is the only difference the the HDCP?
 
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the old 20"s from dell have their own problems.

I just got a BenQ 20" widescreen and Im seriously underwhelmed.
sure, it has no ghosting in games, which is pretty damn great, but it does have a small ammount of bleeding, poor viewing angles, and bland contrast.
 
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Thanks for the info on the NEC. I just placed an order for the Black and Silver version.

I was a little unsure about the rounded bevel of the edges, I prefer a sharper edge, but I think its a shallow bevel, i.e., not too much high off from the screen surface itself, so it should look slick

Seems like this is the screen to beat and coming from a Fuji plasma for my TV I appreciate a glass display, I always hated the matte look of LCD screens and that is part of what has kept me as a CRT guy so long.

I'll post back my findings.
 
Rur0ni said:
And yeah, I hear the new Dells aren't so hot.
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I was hoping you would have some links verifying that.

It seems to me the new dells are awesome except for a few bad apples. The 2005fpw was awesome when they finally fixed the bleed issue though that took almost its entire lifespan. I think I would rather buy 2 dell 20" monitors than one NEC if I had the money to spend, but that is just me :)
 
Man, that NEC has got me drooling in a way that the Dells just never did! :oops:

Is it just me or does that seem like the ultimate monitor right now?
 
digitalwanderer said:
Man, that NEC has got me drooling in a way that the Dells just never did! :oops:

Is it just me or does that seem like the ultimate monitor right now?
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It is, at least to me, the pics are panty wetting. I've been looking for something to replace a CRT with weak guns, but I managed to get another one for free. So I've put off putting money down for it. (Not to mention a fender bender that needed attention).

Sxotty said:
I was hoping you would have some links verifying that.
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My apologies, but its just the general forum banter, and I trust the forum members at anandtech and widescreengaming regarding image quality.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1945215,00.asp

ExtremeTech prefers the Dell over the NEC, because of price, the gloss finish on the NEC, and height adjustment. If you don't have a lightsource behind you (sunlight), and can afford it, the NEC is the better.

rootbeer said:
Thanks for the info on the NEC. I just placed an order for the Black and Silver version.
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Lucky dog.
 
digitalwanderer said:
Man, that NEC has got me drooling in a way that the Dells just never did! :oops:

Is it just me or does that seem like the ultimate monitor right now?
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I can't find the link now but Samsung just announced an LCD HDTV with something like 5000:1 contrast and support for 2 billion colors.
 
Damn it, you're going to make me yank Bubbles into the living room and hook her up to the 40" plasma just to see what I'm missing! :oops:
 
ANova said:
I can't find the link now but Samsung just announced an LCD HDTV with something like 5000:1 contrast and support for 2 billion colors.
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I doubt that's the real contrast ratio unless it's using some fancy Tri Color LED backligting. Samsung also claims their plasmas have a contrast ratio of 10,000 to 1...:LOL: Anyone with a clue knows their plasmas are bottom of the barrel.
 
Rur0ni said:
My apologies, but its just the general forum banter, and I trust the forum members at anandtech and widescreengaming regarding image quality.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1945215,00.asp

ExtremeTech prefers the Dell over the NEC, because of price, the gloss finish on the NEC, and height adjustment. If you don't have a lightsource behind you (sunlight), and can afford it, the NEC is the better.

Lucky dog.
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That is why I was asking, all I saw was general banter, and the actual reviews have not been negative, nor is the impressions of the fellow on this forum who has it.

I would not buy a monitor that is 2x more expensive unless NEC provided a much better warranty such as no dead pixel guarantee etc... if they do that then there is something there, otherwise it is just a really expensive monitor IMO.
 
Sxotty said:
I would not buy a monitor that is 2x more expensive unless NEC provided a much better warranty such as no dead pixel guarantee etc... if they do that then there is something there, otherwise it is just a really expensive monitor IMO.
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I have a no dead pixel warranty, its my Visa card. If I don't like what I bought, I will send it back and dispute the charge. Visa has come through for me the only other time I had to do that. And before it even gets to that I bought it from Buy.com, and they have a no questions asked return policy in the first 14 days on TVs or monitors smaller than 27", so I don't see the problem here with regards to dead pixels.

As far as the height adjustment, I really don't mind, I'll lower my chair. And the reflective glass? That is a preference that some people prefer. I have the absolute best plasma you can buy right now, a 50" Fujitsu 2006. It has glass, as all plasmas do, and in modestly lit (non direct light) environent, it poses no problem for me. I prefer to change my lighting and have the best image quality possible, than to endure the reverse.
 
The NEC is expensive? Here in Norway the Dell 2005FPW, at 25% off, is only about 20% less than 20WGX2. (Note: That's without the M, some multimedia crap.)

So, I've had the 20WGX2 for a while, and it's pretty good, but the reflections can get annoying at times. I try to keep the room very dark whenever I do any IQ-critical stuff. There's some faint backlight leakage in the corners, but I rarely notice it anymore. Strangely, I could swear the leakage has become considerably less since I got the unit, and lots of other people report the same thing.

The bottom line is, it's not perfect, but I wouldn't trade it for any other 20" on the market.
 
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