Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora [PS5, XBSX|S, PC, Stadia]

there is no downplay, there is caution with ubisoft, as there was with the HZFW first trailer.

 

While I agree that UBI and EA have had [prior] tendencies to over-promise with their in-game and offline graphic demos and engine capabilities, they have gotten much (much, much,) better at keeping close to their original demo target renders.

 

Where did The Division look worse than in it's first trailer? The graphical techniques are the same. The actual game has even more to offer than the first video.

The Avatar game is very ambitious. Here the environment seems very large and the player act freely in the air which is much harder than when characters only stay on the ground.

But I would rather have a military Tom Clancy game than Avatar with glorified Stone Age people. Hunters and gatherers were also not one with nature. That's why there is almost no megafauna left on earth outside Africa. They were wiped out by humans before the Neolithic Revolution.

 

In-game cinematics = rendered in realtime but fixed camera using game assets.

CG cinematics = offline rendered from another renderer like Arnold or Renderman.

You not trusting Ubisoft doesn't detract from the visuals we see here. They are impressive. Period.

 

You can't make up your own definitions of what is realtime, in-engine, and cinematics. There is not enough information for you to think this trailer can't be rendered in realtime - especially with a high end PC GPU.

 

It specifically says "Game Footage" at the start of the video.

 

When are previews ever prefixed with "real time"? It's usually "In Engine" or something like "Actual Gameplay". Granted the wording here is a little ambiguous but I think automatically assuming it's a non-real time offline render is unwarranted at this stage. Although I'm sure Ubisoft will take it as a compliment.

 

Regardless an open world with flying but very good detail levels is exactly what something like next-gen enables, especially in terms of SSD speeds for streaming in assets fast enough.

 

I'm not going to assume anything. That footage looks like it can be rendered in realtime. It has a great lighting system to it. Nothing in it shows it can't be realtime by a RTX/AMD card. Can you point out graphically what makes it have to be rendered in offline?

 

Yea, he is just downplaying it because it looks better than anything the PS5 has produced.

 

Yeah sure, but thats a unfair comparison since FW is a cross gen game while this aint.

Maybe its because this avatar game does look better then those in this trailer, and its hard to believe. Its targetting next gen only, its not a cross generation title.

Indeed, its more impressive to me than what FW showcased, unfair cause its not cross gen but still. Its possibly using RT aswell.

I know, it was kinda rough with the cross gen going on lately. Atleast this one's targetting next gen only and it shows. Besides, most game trailers, even actual ingame play are usually either played in a cinematic way or show the best scenes to be found, extra lighting etc.

And then guys like him complain when i come to one of their favourite game threads and say i think its not all that impressive. Here we see the perfect example of a sony fan doing the usual.

Agree.

True again. But oh see what happened when i chime in and call CP2077 being technically 'better' (in my opinion) for example in lighting (5 RT modes at once) as opposed to Rift Apart.
Thing is, scaling exists and Sony exclusives aint the best looking anymore.

 

I'm curious to know if Ubi will really make a triple A with this game, because this is not their usual huge licence like AC for instance.

And indeed we need to be a bit cautious because it's not a gameplay footage apparently.

 

If the graphics are even anything remotely close to what we see there, its head and shoulders above anything else imo. It is targetting next gen hardware only, so its entirely possible (they say game footage). Could be running on a high end pc, with scaling these days, its possible it just looks much better than the lower end versions.

 

When full next gen games will release, it will be interesting to see the difference with the PC version.