Any chance at all of an AGP based X1800 ?

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  1. Bruce

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    I am with you ;)
    I also hope for an X1800 AGP card, they could do at least one model, pleeeeaaaseee!!
    Sapphire might help us :D
     
  2. FrameBuffer

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    Well HERE's My Official Plea for an AGP x1800 variant !!!


    PLEASE give US an AGP version of the x1800 !!!

    (and please no excuse of the 520 GPU being a native PCIe when we are aware of the "Rialto" PCIe to AGP solution used in previous "native PCIe solutions")
     
  3. Randell

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    Well here's my solution.

    http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2524

    Current Rig = NF7 V. 2.0, Athlon XP-M 2400 at >3200 speeds, 1 gig DDR, 6800GT

    Give the Kids my Abit NF7 and my XP-M to replace the dying Epox 8KHA+/XP2000 (leaking caps) in their machine.

    So that mobo which has both AGP and PCI-E x16 slots and can take Dual Core X2 CPU's is a godsend :) Its a cheap mobo as well, even in the UK its only £48. I paired it with a AMD64 3200 for £190 all in. Should give me a nice boost and extend the need for a PCI-E GPU until the R580 etc.
     
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  4. Rys

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    How about ~$50 on a mainboard upgrade, including selling your old one? There are plenty of PCI-E mainboards for Intel that you can just move everything else over to. Upgrade your graphics in the same way and the only reason you'd have to spend anywhere $1000 is if you're going SLI. And even then......
     
  5. swaaye

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    I have a mobile Barton AXP running 2.53GHz on a 220MHZ FSB. I set up a prog called 8rdavcore to automatically bring the FSB down to 133MHz/1.38v when the machine is idle (saves some 50W of electricity). It ramps back up to 2.53GHz after 5 seconds of >50% CPU utilization. Heh it's a poor man's PowerNow since nForce 2 Ultra seems to really dislike me enabling PowerNow with RMClock.

    Now can someone tell me it's worth my time to overhaul my whole system for a Athlon 64 when I have a system like this? I don't think so. :)

    I suppose I'll be stuck buying a AGP X800XT or some such board. I don't think my 9700 is going to drive Oblivion so well at the 1920x1200 my 2405FPW runs. Heh.
     
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    I wish someone had told me about that (8rdavcore) before...
     
  7. swaaye

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    I've been using 8rdavcore for over a year I'd say. I usually use it to figure out what voltage is stable when I'm overclocking. But a couple of days ago I decided to mess around with the AutoFSB feature. It's neato.

    8rdavcore only supports a few boards though. It also seems to lock up NF7-S 2.0 even though it supports that board. Perhaps I set something up wrong. I'm using it on my Shuttle AN35N/Ultra.

    I had to voltmod my board because the POST voltage was too low and was giving me cold boot trouble at >2.4GHz. So now my board defaults to like 1.75v on power up and it 90% of the time powers up fine. At 2.53GHz my mobile needs about 1.90v. With a Thermalright SLK-800U on the CPU it runs about 56C in Prime95. It's cold in the room it's in though, probably 65F usually.
     
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    I'm eyeing the X850XT PE myself. I'm pretty sure R520 isn't coming to AGP. Just have this overwhemingly powerful vibe about it.
     
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    What the hell is wrong with driving a Holden?? :mad: I have a 1982 VH SL-X Station Wagon that I just took up too Bathurst and did a lap with on Saturdays race day...

    heheheh

    anyways I'm looking at the asrock dual sata2 board. Has both agp and pci... has slot for M2 socket... does everything... not quite as well rounded as a nforce4 blah blah... cheap as chips...everybody please buy it who needs an agp card with existing A64... thread over. :wink:
     
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    I would love a new AGP card to replace my 9500Pro - it struggles in WoW at 1920x1200. As a side note, it's much easier to convince the girlfriend that "I need a new video card" over "I need a new video card, MOBO, CPU and RAM". You didn't think about that, now did you, ATI? :wink:

    To stray off topic a wee bit can I have suggestions on which AGP card from either of these stores is the best for under ~AU$300:

    http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&bid=2&id2=6
    http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

    I am willing to stretch to a bit more if the card is "better value". I also try to remain impartial to NVidia or ATI, though a Radeon would make my life easier in regards to drivers. I'm leaning towards a X800SE personally.

    Hope I'm not crapping on the thread :oops:
     
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    I think I see the problem here. You're running your financial decisions past her. You might as well be married... :wink:
     
  13. PARANOiA

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    God knows how many times she's initiated THAT particular discussion!
     
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    i'm not too worried about it...

    maybe in a few months or so a few manufacturers will come out with a R520+ agp variant...

    it would be quite dismal to overlook the AGP crowd seeing as they're the majority of the market atm...

    maybe after the PCI-E crowd gets their fix on the new GPU...

    potential sales would warrant manufacturers to invest on an AGP version...

    if not... then a midrange motherboard that offers whatever components/configuration you have currently, minus the AGP slot is all you need to get that much coveted gfx card...
     
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    I still have a AGP board with a 9800pro.

    Now that ATI has some 3.0 hardware out, I'll have another look at PCIE, see how much a x1600 is. Certainly no point in buying 2.0 hardware today, especially for $$$.

    Then again, maybe I should wait for PCI-E version 2. And do I get a dual capable board or not? If I do, do I go with the ATI version or the NVIDIA version?

    Maybe I'll just buy a console for games.. :)
     
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    I am not impressed with the X1800 and 7800 gtx performance, it wasnt the time for upgrade to the PCI-ExPRESS for me:razz:

    My fine system P4EE 3.2@3.8 (1:1) and X800pro 525/525 mhz (16 pipelines active) chalenge very well any system with new specs. Only when we talk about multiprocessing with new processors the system shows a drawback, but PCMARK2004 - 6099, 3DMARK2005 - 6433, PCMARK2003 - 13.680, 3DMARK2001 - 28.650, AQUAMARK3 - 80.100, FAR CRY 1280 x 1024 ps-97.74 fps 2b AF-16 AA-4 maximum quality settings. So i dont need to "upgrade" since must games are single threaded:wink:
     
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    There will be AGP cards this gen. But the extra cost will be more than a new MB and a extra Gig of RAM. Also you will not get the faster VidRAM with them. So there will be a 200$ premium and they will have slower RAM. And for you 754 socket/CPU guys... your f88ked.. thats dead too, and you EE guys..(FX too)with a AGP MB. WHAT where you thinking?. I have no sympathy for anybody that spent 800$ or more on a CPU and then got a AGP MB.... In the last 18months.
     
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    Oh, maybe they were thinking jumping on the new tech bandwagon was not such a good idea? LOL. It's not like AGP 1X and 2X rocked in every way. I picked up a Socket 939 AGP board for a friend Fall '04 cuz the PCIe advantage sure wasn't there. Nor were really good chipsets. But for him it won't matter. He has a 6600GT right now and there will certainly be an upgrade path from that. And there will certainly be cheap PCIe boards available.

    I HIGHLY doubt there will be some wacko $200 premium, unless they rig the market to be like that due to demand/stock and the MSRP is permanently the selling price. I suppose it could end up like SDRAM prices.

    I don't try to play the computer market for future-proof buying. It's hopeless and everyone here should have enough experience to realize that. You buy what you need when you are buying, that is the only concern and hope.

    Personally I have a AXP Shuttle AN35N/Ultra board that's 3 yrs old now. nForce2 Ultra 400. 2.5GHz Barton. 9700NP. I've floated right on thru the crazy stupid birth of PCIe and have certainly been getting my money's worth out of this rig. When I upgrade PCIe will certainly be mature.
     
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    I think there are going to be some X1XXX later but its gone to cost more like 30%. Look at the X800 line now and you will see the PCI-E is much cheaper for the same thing.
     
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    I wonder if when ill have need to upgrade my system the PCI-Express and DDR2 will not be obsolete:?: :wink: :shock: :razz:
     
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