AMD Radeon VII Announcement and Discussion

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  1. ToTTenTranz

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    "Radeon VII"

    Not Vega 2, it's Radeon 7.
    7nm.

    60CUs
    16GB HBM2 - 1TB/s (quad-stack)

    Compared to Vega 64:
    +35% on BF5 DX12
    +25% on Fortnite
    +42% on Strange Brigade Vulkan


    So it's a GTX 1080 Ti / RTX 2080 competitor.
     
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    60 CUs
    1,8 GHz
    +25% perf
    16 GB HBM
    1 TB/s BW

    What's the target?

    a moment later: RTX 2080 is the target
     
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    Yup, they just showed comparisons with the RTX 2080.
     
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    Looks very nice. Price point 499 US$? edit: just officially announced: 699 US-$, Feb 7th.
    Interestingly, Su talked about Async Compute, Rapid Packed Math and Shader Intrinsics as new Vega features being used already by developers. Not mentioning more technical thingies may be due to the intended LV audience.
     
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    Is that your price point or theirs? Seems way below what I assume they'd charge for such a card.
     
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    I haven't seen anything about price yet.

    $500 sounds too low, considering that's at the level of a RTX 2070.
     
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    $699, available February 7
    Bundles Resident Evil 2, The Division 2 and Devil May Cry.
     
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    Just wild guess. It's 699 US-$.
     
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    Supposedly comes with the following games:
    "Devil may cry 5"
    "The Division 2"
    and then 1 more i forgot about.
     
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    Well the supposedly +65% in OpenCL performance sure is intriguing.. 80% of my work is done using compute on OpenCL.. So they have my attention.. 16Gb of HMB2 is also great for my work..
     
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    Can't be much profit on a $700 card with a 330mm^2 chip?

    How much do people think HBM2 costs nowadays? $100 per 4GB stack?


    I think people are confusing what is a perfectly reasonable profit margin with the ridiculously high margins that Intel and nvidia managed to have during the latest years due to lack of competition.
     
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    AMD still seems to be behind in terms of architectural performance. Their 7nm chip is matching a 2080(12nm). Nividia 7nm's chips will probably leap well ahead again...
     
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    Architecturally, yes.
    Though there's been some news about nvidia only jumping to 7nm when Samsung adopts EUV, and that would push the RTX successors to 2020. That would put them launching a quarter after Navi.
     
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    How can they have gains like that, with just a boost clock 15xx mhz to 1800 ?
     
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    For starters, twice the bandwidth.
     
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    Clearly, but NVIDIA's 7nm chips will compete against Navi, not Radeon VII, so who knows where AMD will be architecturally by then.
     
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    not much far away from VEGA II
     
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    The question is wtf does the +62% OpenCL perf means given that the Blender (+27%), Davinci (+15%) and Adobe Premier (+29%) are actually all OpenCL based...

    Edit: it's apparently LuxMark.. Meh..
     
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