AMD / ATI Catalyst 10.2 (+ 10.3 sneak peek)

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  1. Kaotik

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    According to Anand, the drivers were supposed to be released yesterday, but they're not out yet.

    But nevertheless, he has sneak peeks on both of them

    Catalyst 10.2
    1. Crossfire profile – Per-game Crossfire profiles are being moved out of the drivers, so that AMD can distribute out-of-band profile updates.
    2. CrossfireX rearchitecture - Certain parts of AMD’s multi-GPU code has been moved from the 3D driver to another driver component; this segmentation is largely to benefit Fuzion integrated CPU/GPUs later this year.
    3. Ultra Low Power State – This feature for lower-idling on Crossfire slave cards has been in the entire 5000 series. However it’s only being enabled across the board starting with this release.
    4. Crossfire Eyefinity – Eyefinity now works with all Crossfire configurations, not just on the 5970..
    5. DisplayPort Audio – The 5000 series is now capable of outputting audio over the DisplayPort in accordance with the DisplayPort standard.

    Some of these (CFX Eyefinity, DP Audio, Ultra Low Power State) were already in 9.12 hotfix drivers, but not in 10.1 apparently.

    Catalyst 10.3
    1. Catalyst Mobility – AMD will once again be releasing Catalyst drivers for most Mobility GPUs.
    2. Eyefinity Bezel Correction – Eyefinity setups can finally be adjusted to compensate for the space occupied by monitor bezels.
    3. Eyefinity Per Display Controls – Per display color correction, particularly useful for mismatched monitors.
    4. Eyefinity Multiple Groups
    5. Eyefinity Display Configuration Switching
    6. 3D Stereo driver hooks – AMD is implementing some low-level hooks to help 3rd-party 3D displays work with Radeon cards.

    AnandTech: What's New: AMD's Catalyst 10.2 & 10.3 Drivers

    The bezel management will be interesting, and the implementation apparently will allow you to adjust it in-game in real time

    Many users will no doubt also enjoy the fact that Mobility Catalysts are coming back
     
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    I liked this part of the conclusion over at anandtech

    Completely agree with it myself. AMD have been going on about how open standards for physics etc are better and using OpenCL to support physics should be the way forward and yet they don't even provide end users with a way to run OpenCL content, meaning developers aren't going to write OpenCL code. AMD really need to sort this mess out and quickly.

    If they don't want to bloat drivers (which by the way is the first time I've heard this reasoning, previously it was because they were the only vendor that supported OpenCL on the CPU and wanted to keep that) then why can't they just provide the ATIStreamSDK_dev.exe from the SDK on their website? It's only 30MB and would give end users OpenCL support.
     
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    Well, ATi could try and shrink the bloated CCC run-time, for compensation.
    And anyway, NV doesn't seem to have any remorse about over-sized driver pack's, so what's the issue here -- server bandwidth costs? :p
     
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    No, its due out today.
     
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    Just to clarify the downloadable profiles that will be provided, are these crossfire profiles only, or do they allow stuff like the ability to force AA in games that don't provide in game settings?
     
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    Hanners just put up an interview he did with Terry Makedon about this too. :)

     
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    If there is something already in the driver then the profiles can be used to point to that, so in the cases of new UE3 based games coming out the profiles, I believe, can be used to for single card CCC AA activation.
     
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    Question: Will SGSSAA come back for HD4000&OpenGL games?
     
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    So Sony, Toshiba and Panasonic opted out of the monthly mobile catalyst program. Won't be buying them then.
     
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    I am interesting when will amd (+havok) offer havok opencl accelerate .

    btw, why AMD/NVIDIA sill have not provide 10-bit desktop scan-out . AFAIK, (almost) all DX10 GPU does support provide 10-bit XR_BIAS format.
     
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    Havok is Intel's toy and not AMD's.
     
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    I known. but AMD have a press release said they are doing on this.
     
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    Now that crt's are dead is there a point, most people are using 6bit panels, the others are using 8bit
     
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    Do we know if any of the recent 10.1 hotfixes are likely to be included in the 10.2s released today? Such as the ME2 hotfix or the GSOD hotfix?
     
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    I think that in practical terms it means that AMD is expecting devs to be developing apps right now, not distributing them, yet. :???:

    It does, however, create a chicken and egg situation.
     
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    But one could just go to the ati/amd site and download the drivers right?
     
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    Seems you may be right, stupid IMO.

    From here http://www.techeye.net/software/amd-defends-itself-from-nvidia-opencl-attack

    Why would there be a large volume of applications that are widely available until both Nvidia and AMD had OpenCL in the standard driver package so that all end users could actually run those apps?

    There's also this part

    I'm sorry but how is having to register to a special developer site and download an SDK which comes with a ton of samples and a profiler that isn't needed by end users, the same as releasing OpenCL drivers to the end user? It just isn't.
     
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    Thats what I want to know too.
     
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    No, the "opted out" part means that laptops from those brands won't allow installing the mobile catalysts from AMD/ATI site, while others do
     
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