Yes but the latency quote doesn't cover if that is with full skeletal tracking on the maximum number of users, or just feeding the ir depth map.
Obviously we don't know every detail. But from what we do know, I'm willing to take that information and present my expected performance from the...
That's why I said "likely" on those items. Price is likely to be in the same ballpark as neither console has an anchor bringing BOM to...
This is with processing the kinect2.0 that will be packed in the box... If they had more processing headroom, they could handle 1080p 60fps or...
Assumptions based on (the relatively accepted) leaked specs and where these consoles are similar and different. And BTW it isn't just a flop...
Yep. Should have plenty of games and systems available at launch ... the tide could turn early if Sony plays this one right! Excited to see...
How exactly are they supposed to do the same when they have a performance deficit this time, not an advantage? Let's run down the list:...
Pretty well for MS right now ... They are the de-facto standard for most multiplat online gaming which nets them roughly $1B/yr. Nextgen? Why...
Anecdote: I was at Blockbuster this weekend when a customer asked about the WiiU games. The young lady behind the counter said, "those aren't...
From the info we have, Orbis has twice the ROPs and the bandwidth to take advantage of them. This COULD lead to literally twice the frame rate or...
I never said explicitly 50% more powerful. Realistically, I'm expecting a sub/choppy 30fps title on Durango - and roughly the same title on...
Oh I'm sure it can process kinect 2.0 Just like xbox360 can process kinect 1.0 That doesn't mean it is doing it optimally (lag-free finger...
I think the question is what is being processed in that measurement. Is it full skeletal + rgb, or just depth cam? If it's just the depth...
It seems a netbook processor might not have been the wisest move considering the processing necessary to realize kinect interface's potential....
If they were very different and unknown architectures, then the wait and see approach would make sense as there would be too many variables to...
That's again part of the problem. If the decision is made to include kinect2.0 in every box, then processing power needs to be ADDED to...
So much fail going on at MS ... sad thing is, it is/was entirely avoidable. #firebalmer Perhaps that is a typo and it is supposed to read:...
Unless that new box has a fruit logo on it. People seem to love fruit for some reason. :???: Google would be another name with a lot of weight...
Yep. Not enough improvement in latency. Not sure if it is a interface issue (usb), or again, skimping on processing ... Either way, if this...
Right ... and how does this architectural advantage compare to Durango? Imagine a ps3 with 72 unified shaders instead of xbox's 48...(both from...
ps3 v xb360 ... that's an interesting example. Why do you think most games and gamers never saw this compute advantage on ps3? ... right. Now...
I don't doubt that the majority of the game lineup will be reserved for e3, but I think a half dozen big hitters which show the systems...
Amen. From what I can see, Sony will be taking a good chunk of the userbase from MS nextgen. Sometimes, greed and stupidity intersect and...
Question is, as a developer, why dedicate resources to a platform selling like this? Smart money would be on establishing a presence on the new...
Yes. They could cancel it this summer and have a firesale to clear inventory. $100 wiiu would do pretty well I'd assume ;) Seriously, the...
True we don't know exactly what that performance deficit is going to look like, but we do know that there is likely to be one. It's just a matter...
I don't disagree. Having said that, the way to expand the market beyond the "core" imo isn't more of the same (app this that or the other)...
I'd say with the hardware being as close to pc spec as it is, I'm pretty sure Sony won't be shy about showing "working samples" of ps4 games which...
I'm not disagreeing on the periphery being important, but I'm also not seeing anything in the spec which makes it impossible for the competition...
That's great but there are repercussions involved here by coming up 33% short (if that's the real world deficit). As is, people pay a premium...
It's a logical and valid argument, but I disagree 100%. ps360 sold roughly 100million units. Smart phones, pcs and tabs sell many times this,...
I'm not seeing anything in the spec sheet of the competition which is showing an advantage that durango can do which the competition CAN'T do....
Perhaps I'll be wrong on this ... but obviously power does matter. WiiU is making this abundantly clear ATM. If I'm right, 2015 may be too...
Sure SOC is smart ... but what isn't smart is being outclassed by your competitor which is launching in the same time and price window (likely)...
If the competition is coming as weak as the rumors suggest, Sony will have all the right in the world to charge for MP. Especially if they...
All of that is great ... but when the first multiplats show a notable advantage on your competitors system, and the overall design is such that...
This is true especially if a custom design is in the cards. I say if they were planning on roughly standard tech, why not off the shelf units...
13.5" x 12.5" x 3.75" vs 12.15" x 10.15" x 3.27" It's a small box which could be sold as a console. Is it really that much of a stretch for...
Alienware x51 is roughly the size of the original xb360. It too can accommodate the 294mm2 gk104. I'm not advocating this chip necessarily,...
I don't want to derail this thread or veer offtopic, but I think it's important to understand the past to understand where things are headed in...
You'd know better than I exactly how many there are that assume this, but I've seen it multiple times on this forum from members that think it's...
And much of that is profit to multiple vendors which would not be the case in a custom chip config paid for by MS/Sony. But I'm sure you knew...
For those of you that assumed low specs were necessary due to high heat and failure rates of early xb360 and ps3, and thus the current rumored...
This is the kind of stuff that makes me really question other decisions at MS. There are a TON of potential revenue streams from an advanced...
While that may be "it", that doesn't mean it is trivial. Many gamers swear by 60fps and anything else is a letdown. Same goes for resolution....
Actually the business model would remain quite the same actually. HW sold for small loss or breakeven, and make cash on sw. For the devs, it...
That's a fine strategy to have, but it must be accompanied by a *clear* reveal of this strategy from day one. Otherwise, customers will choose...
Perhaps, but at launch, the far more likely question is: "is this the new X?". This was certainly the case with ps2 as the launch software...
That's the thing, nothing is guaranteed wrt xblg subscribers... If durango disappoints, that leaves the door wide open for Sony and PSN. Then...
Sure, but it could be too late by then. Momentum is a funny thing, and being the "it" console is a tough thing to shake, even with better...