Definitions of 0 and infinity

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infinity^0 = 1?
1^infinity = 1?

Are these identities valid or a meaningless and must be associated with a context(and are meaningless anyway)?
 
That's what I thought but from past experience things like 0 and infinity are undefined.
Certainly powers are recursive functions and looking at 1^ifty from that point of view it is undefined as it would never be complete however 1^x is just going to be 1 anyway.
 
Infinity is not an element of the real numbers, so yes its meaningless unless you put in context.

Its sort of like asking what apple ^ orange means.
 
Their are different types of infinity. If you replace infinity with 1/0 for example then those identities make sense. The general practice is when infinity crops up as an answer you should not reduce to infinity, because after later operations the quantity may become finite again. You can see how 0/0, 1/0, and 2/0 are three different infinite values. If (1/0 = infinity) does (infinity* 0 = 1) it does not, but (1/0 *0 =1) is true.

It's similiar to how irrational numbers have infintie decimal places yet all irrational numbers are not equal. If we think about the irrational numbers as a fraction then the numerator would be one infinite number and the denomator a different one.
 
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If you interpret 1^Inf as a limit expression, then you can derive three values depending on the direction of convergence.

lim 1 ^ x , x -> Inf = 1

lim x ^ Inf. x -> 1- = 0

lim x ^ Inf, x -> 1+ = Inf
 
The general practice is when infinity crops up as an answer you should not reduce to infinity, because after later operations the quantity may become finite again. You can see how 0/0, 1/0, and 2/0 are three different infinite values. If (1/0 = infinity) does (infinity* 0 = 1) it does not, but (1/0 *0 =1) is true.

No, 1/0 * 0 = 1 is not true. 1/0 * 0 is undefined.

Let x = 1/0 * 0, x will represent the value of this equation. If you think that a 0 in the denominator can be "cancelled", multiply both sides by 0.

0 * x = 1 * 0

There are an infinite number of values X that satisfy this equation.

0 has no multiplicative inverse, period.


It's similiar to how irrational numbers have infintie decimal places yet all irrational numbers are not equal. If we think about the irrational numbers as a fraction then the numerator would be one infinite number and the denomator a different one.

Irrationals cannot be defined solely by a ratio of two integers, even ones with an infinite number of digits.
 
Attempting to divide by zero, even if you don't explicitly do it, is what causes this to be false.

a = b
a^2 = a*b
a^2-b^2 = a*b-b^2
(a+b)(a-b) = b(a-b)
(a+b) = b
a+a = a
2a = a
2 = 1
 
infinity^0 = 1?
1^infinity = 1?

Are these identities valid or a meaningless and must be associated with a context(and are meaningless anyway)?

Unlike something like R/infinity = 0 where R is real number, infinity^0 is indeterminate.

For example: lim (x^(1/x)) when x-->infinity

lim {x^(1/x)} when x-->infinity
= lim {e^ln[x^(1/x)]} when x-->infinity
= lim {e^[(ln x)/x]} when x-->infinity
= lim {e^[(x-1)/x]} when x-->infinity
= lim {e^[1-1/x]} when x-->infinity
= e

See the limit doesn't equal to 1.
 
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