Naughty Dog's New IP (Pics)
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Very true, even though I think I used the "Yes, exactly what we need, another futuristic FPS" line myself more than oncescooby_dooby said:
Strangely, even though I'm the first to appreciate a non-bald main character and a Pitfall-like setting, something disturbed me as well when I first saw the trailer during the Sony conference. I can't put my finger on what exactly it was except that it was clearly graphics-related, but I can certainly sympathize with the feeling. I don't believe it is the "uncanny valley" principle, as the overall look of the game is not nearly that realistic. Can anyone identify the strangeness of this game's graphics?
Oh, and rounin, I LOL'd
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PeterT said:Very true, even though I think I used the "Yes, exactly what we need, another futuristic FPS" line myself more than once
Strangely, even though I'm the first to appreciate a non-bald main character and a Pitfall-like setting, something disturbed me as well when I first saw the trailer during the Sony conference. I can't put my finger on what exactly it was except that it was clearly graphics-related, but I can certainly sympathize with the feeling. I don't believe it is the "uncanny valley" principle, as the overall look of the game is not nearly that realistic. Can anyone identify the strangeness of this game's graphics?
Oh, and rounin, I LOL'd
I've seen a few people say this on the internet. I think it's the animation that most people find different and distribing. We've never seen animation look like that ever in 3D games until now.
PeterT said:Strangely, even though I'm the first to appreciate a non-bald main character and a Pitfall-like setting, something disturbed me as well when I first saw the trailer during the Sony conference. I can't put my finger on what exactly it was except that it was clearly graphics-related, but I can certainly sympathize with the feeling. I don't believe it is the "uncanny valley" principle, as the overall look of the game is not nearly that realistic. Can anyone identify the strangeness of this game's graphics?
Oh, and rounin, I LOL'd
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/812/812550/img_3634964.html
When looking at this I noticed a lack of shadows, which was odd cause the other shots had them. I felt the lighting wasn't as natural looking. It seemed that everything was illuminated equally, not as dynamic as previous games seen like Gears of War. but it could be just the fast pace of the trailer fooling my eye. I'm sure there are dynamic shadows and such.
theres definitly correct dynamic shadows in the video (both from the sun + point lights). look out your window (during day light + a cloudy day) notice things eg trees dont really have a high contrast, which this game seems to emulate personally i dont like the style, i luv cg when its over the top with everything larger than life. gears of war seems to be set a lot in darkened places thus lights/shadows are gonna be far more apparent.
im scratching my head why ppl were bitching about killzone2 being not achivable + here we have footage at least as good
edit - btw dont judge gears of war by a lot of the screenshots floating around on the web, the majority arent actual ingame screenshots. the ingame stuff is much lower quality. perhaps its the same with this naughty dog video we've seen, im still not 100% its actual ingame stuff
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the only amazing thing with the kz2 trailer that would be hard to do on the console, would be the sheer scale of the place, eg theyre flying down + they land in this highly detailed part of the city. now for the whole city to be as detailed as that, would be to much of an ask (the only way i see the ability of pulling it off, oh er!. is not being.able to decide where u land, or compressed algorithmical generated geometry in gametime)NANOTEC said:
btw downloaded + looked at a more recent gow video, there was no dynamic lights apart from a single directional light (unlike in this naughty dog video) + even that was selective ie it seemed to only cast shadows from selected things eg players. i believe the marketting of gow haved pulled a kz2, keeping quiet about the released footage is not actual gameplay footage ie prerendered. in saying that gow looks like a more fun game to play than the naughty dog game. (for me at least)
also one thing with gow, i noticed its a third person camera, yet u aim + shoot via a first person view, now this works if the thing youre firing travels fast eg a bullet, but for slower moving weapons eg a rocket launcher that leaves a smoke trail, so its apparent from where the missile came from, its gonna look visually incorrect, how on earth have they managed to solve this problem? has anyone played it?
youve mentioned the lighting/shading before thats easily altered (depending on the viewer taste)NANOTEC said:
anyways naughtydog vs killzone2
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/zzeek/naughty-dog-ps3-project-unt.jpg
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748475/img_3318612.html
NANOTEC said:
Red lobsters? You do know that in-game characters don't actually tan, and can't really get burned by light, cause they're not real, right?
MrWibble said:
Not even with a Cyrix CPU.
Well it indicates that what you dislike about the game's appearance is not lighting/shading but rather simple artist color direction.NANOTEC said:
And filter for all those three components is so trivial even PS2 can do it almost for free, so NDD game could look like that shot, right now, without affecting how it runs in any way.
Actually shadows are one thing that made me suspicious about the trailer(when seeing it in HD) - they are far better quality in terms of shadow resolution/aliasing then anything currently using shadowmaps that I've seen before and at E3, regardless of the platform.drpepper said:
I'll wait and see until I'm fully convinced about this trailer being realtime.
sonyps35 said:
That was the sound of my sarcasm going right over your head...