eXtreme PSU Calculator Update

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mnemonik23

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February 8, 2006


The following changes were made:

- added System Type: Single or Dual CPU

- added Alphacool AP1510 Pump
- added Asetek WaterChill Xtreme Pump
- added Danger Den CSP-MAG Pump
- added Danger Den DDC-12V
- added Danger Den DD12V-D5
- added Innovatek Eheim HPPS Plus Pump
- added Laing DDC-1 12V Pump
- added Laing DDC-2 12V Pump
- added Swiftech MCP 655 Pump

- added Koolance Aquian ICM Water Cooling Kit
- added Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultra Water Cooling Kit
- added Thermaltake CL-W0020 Tribe Water Cooling Kit
- added Thermaltake CL-W0052 TideWater Water Cooling Kit

Video Cards update will be released next week!

www.extreme.outervision.com
 
eXtreme PSU Calculator v1.3

February 15, 2006


Version 1.3 of eXtreme PSU Calculator has been released!

The following changes were made:

- updated Video Cards power consumption based on real 3D tests

- added Video Type: Single Crad, SLI or Crossfire

- added 9 overclocked Video Cards

- added ATI Radeon X700 Pro
- added ATI Radeon X800 GT
- added Chrome S25
- added Chrome S27
- added NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS AGP
- added NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500

- added CPU Utilization based on TDP

- updated SCSI Hard Drives

Stay tuned, a few major updates and tools are coming! One of them is a nice surprise (we hope) for Liquid Cooling enthusiasts ;)

www.extreme.outervision.com
 
Would be nice of instead of just a wattage number you list the recommended amount of amperage on the various rails.
 
March 5, 2006

radeonic2 said:
Would be nice of instead of just a wattage number you list the recommended amount of amperage on the various rails.
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I know, but it's very hard (almost impossible) to find necessary data for all components...


March 5, 2006

The following changes were made:

- added NVIDIA Quadro FX 330
- added NVIDIA Quadro FX 1300
- added NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400
- added NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450
- added NVIDIA Quadro FX 4400
- added NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500
- added NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 SDI

- added AMD Sempron 3300+ 1800 MHz Palermo (Socket 754)
- added AMD Sempron 3400+ 1800 MHz Palermo (Socket 754)
- added AMD Sempron 3000+ 1800 MHz Palermo (Socket 939)
- added AMD Sempron 3200+ 1800 MHz Palermo (Socket 939)
- added AMD Sempron 3400+ 2000 MHz Palermo (Socket 939)
- added AMD Turion 64 MT-28 1600 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 MT-30 1600 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 MT-32 1800 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 MT-34 1800 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 MT-37 2000 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 MT-40 2200 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 MT-42 2400 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 MT-44 2400 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 ML-28 1600 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 ML-30 1600 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 ML-32 1800 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 ML-34 1800 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 ML-37 2000 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 ML-40 2200 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 ML-42 2400 MHz
- added AMD Turion 64 ML-44 2400 MHz

www.extreme.outervision.com
 
April 5, 2006

April 5, 2006

New additions this month:

- eXtreme Flow Designer has been released! Your comments, suggestions or bugs are very welcome.

- added a separate CPU Overclock Calculator
- added CPU Temperature Calculator
- added C/W Calculator
- added Temperature Conversion tool

eXtreme PSU Calculator changes:

- added NVIDIA FX 5900
- added NVIDIA FX 5900 XT
- added NVIDIA 7600 GS
- added NVIDIA 7300 GS
- added NVIDIA 7300 LE

- updated power consumption for the following NVIDIA video cards:

7900 GTX
7900 GT
7800 GTX
7800 GT
7600 GT

- updated power consumption for the following ATI video cards:

X1900 XTX
X1900 XT
X1800 XT

http://www.extreme.outervision.com
 
May 16, 2006

May 16, 2006

The following changes were made:

- added Nvidia GeForce 7900 GX2
- added Nvidia GeForce 7950 GX2
- added Quad SLI for GeForce 7900 GX2 and 7950 GX2

- added AMD Socket AM2

- added AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2200 MHz AM2 Orleans
- added AMD Athlon 64 3500+ EE 2200 MHz AM2 Orleans
- added AMD Athlon 64 3800+ 2400 MHz AM2 Orleans
- added AMD Athlon 64 4000+ 2600 MHz AM2 Orleans
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2000 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ HE 2000 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ EE 2000 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ 2000 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ HE 2000 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2200 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ HE 2200 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ 2200 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ HE 2200 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2400 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ HE 2400 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ 2400 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ HE 2400 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ 2600 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 2600 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 2800 MHz AM2 Windsor

- added new Intel's socket 771

- added Intel Xeon 5110 Woodcrest
- added Intel Xeon 5120 Woodcrest
- added Intel Xeon 5130 Woodcrest
- added Intel Xeon 5140 Woodcrest
- added Intel Xeon 5150 Woodcrest
- added Intel Xeon 5160 Woodcrest

- updated Intel Xeon 5020, 5030, 5040, 5050, 5060, 5070, 5080 (Dempsey core)


Best Regards,
eXtremeOV
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I see a trap easy to walk into: leaving utilization at 100% while adding some for both surge compensation and aging. This gives a very unrealistic wattage. All components will never draw 100% at the same time, especially not during start up (where surge current applies).
 
yes, this calculator implies you're playing some recent game while running an encoding, ripping a DVD, burning another DVD, while defragmenting your disks, formatting a floppy if you have a drive, etc.
More importantly, wattage figures don't tell all the story. I'm pretty sure a noname 480W PSU is inferior to a 350W Fortron. (the difference in weight is pretty comical, for one thing)

in the end, use it as a tool, maybe, and if you feel you need a powerful PSU, get a good 400W or 450W or whatever, not a crappy, fake 550W one.
 
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These days most people seem to want 400 - 550 W PSUs, while most systems (single video card) peak at less than 200 W, maybe 250 with hefty overclocking.

When alluding to this, the typical justification is some vague notion of future expansion. But considering the new trend of energy efficiency, that doesn't add up unless they plan to go SLI or such.
 
IMO the reason people want 500W+ PSUs is the strange notion that Watts in your PSU == inches on your e-peen.

I've seen the excuse made that the real stability issue in overclockz0r is the amps on your 12V rail. A good quality 300W PSU might have a better capacity in this regard than a crappy 450W PSU. The wise and initiated members of the elite club, the story goes, are smart enough to buy high-quality power supplies, but when handing out advice to stoopid n00bs who are too dumb to do anything other than follow instructions the message "get a 500W PSU" is sufficient to ensure that aforementioned n00b doesn't end up buying a PSU from Lucky-Sun-Tech which doesn't supply sufficient amps to allow them to overclock their Sempron properly.

What this doesn't explain of course is why, when these same wise and initiated members of the elite club go out and use their accumulated wisdom and knowledge to select a high-quality PSU from a manufacturer with a sufficiently cool name (ideally with lots of 'X's in the name), they choose to buy an 800W PSU which is likely sufficient to run their rig three or four times over. I mean if they really knew what they were doing they'd be competing to run the biggest rig on the smallest PSU, because that demonstrates true smarts rather than just a need for a bigger number in their forum sig.
 
Blazkowicz said:
yes, this calculator implies you're playing some recent game while running an encoding, ripping a DVD, burning another DVD, while defragmenting your disks, formatting a floppy if you have a drive, etc.
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Exactly, it assumes that every component is running at it's peak utilization. That's why there are adjustments to PSU utilization and CPU TDP.
 
September 2, 2006

September 2, 2006


The following changes were made:

eXtreme PSU Calculator update:

- added ATI Radeon X1950 XTX
- added NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 (600/750)

General Website update:

Enermax Galaxy 1000W power supply review:
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/articles/psu/enermax/enermax_galaxy_1.jsp

Announcement: Stay tuned, a new version of eXtreme PSU Calculator is coming! Key features that have been addressed in phase 1 of this new version: load speed, new engine and UI improvements.

http://www.extreme.outervision.com
 
radeonic2 said:
Would be nice of instead of just a wattage number you list the recommended amount of amperage on the various rails.
Click to expand...

mnemonik23 said:
I know, but it's very hard (almost impossible) to find necessary data for all components...
Click to expand...

If you don't have that data, how can you ever hope to provide a sensible recommendation?

Oh, and instead of refering to that sad article about PSU's on some overclocking forum, you have better refer to an article written by someone who actually knows what he is talking about.
There are several good ones on the net, but I recently found this one, which is not too long, but gives a good explanation about what is important in PSUs: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article28-page1.html
 
mjtdevries said:
If you don't have that data, how can you ever hope to provide a sensible recommendation?

Oh, and instead of refering to that sad article about PSU's on some overclocking forum, you have better refer to an article written by someone who actually knows what he is talking about.
There are several good ones on the net, but I recently found this one, which is not too long, but gives a good explanation about what is important in PSUs: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article28-page1.html
Click to expand...

mjtdevries, I'm collecting the data and very close to finish it ;)
Good article! I updated my link.

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October 15, 2006


eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Mega Update: ATI R600 and GeForce 8800 GTX, Intel Quad CPUs and latest processors from AMD and Intel!

The following changes were made:

Graphics Cards:

- added GeForce 8800GTX - power consumption data is based on a few online sources (wattage value is approximate, not final)
- added ATI R600 - power consumption data is based on a few online sources (wattage value is approximate, not final)
- added ATI Radeon X1300 XT
- added ATI Radeon X1650 Pro
- added Radeon X1900XT (R580+ 256MB)
- added ATI Radeon X1950 Pro

Processors:

- added AMD Opteron 165 1800 MHz Denmark
- added AMD Opteron 165 1800 MHz Denmark
- added AMD Opteron 170 2000 MHz Denmark
- added AMD Opteron 170 2000 MHz Denmark
- added AMD Opteron 175 2200 MHz Denmark
- added AMD Opteron 175 2200 MHz Denmark
- added AMD Opteron 180 2400 MHz Denmark
- added AMD Opteron 180 2400 MHz Denmark
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ 2800 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ 2800 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 3000 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added Opteron 1210 1800 MHz Santa Ana
- added Opteron 1212 2000 MHz Santa Ana
- added Opteron 1214 2200 MHz Santa Ana
- added Opteron 1216 2400 MHz Santa Ana
- added Opteron 1218 2600 MHz Santa Ana
- added Opteron 1220 SE 2800 MHz Santa Ana

- added Socket F AMD

- added AMD Athlon 64 FX-70 2600 MHz Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 FX-72 2800 MHz Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 FX-74 3000 MHz Windsor
- added Opteron 2210 1800 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 2210 HE 1800 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 2212 2000 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 2212 HE 2000 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 2214 2200 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 2214 HE 2200 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 2216 2400 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 2216 HE 2400 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 2218 2600 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 2220 SE 2800 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 8212 2000 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 8212 HE 2000 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 8214 2200 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 8214 HE 2200 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 8216 2400 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 8216 HE 2400 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 8218 2600 MHz Santa Rosa
- added Opteron 8220 SE 2800 MHz Santa Rosa

- added Intel Xeon 7150N 3500 MHz Tulsa
- added Intel Xeon 5148 2330 MHz Woodcrest
- added Intel Xeon 5310 1600 MHz Clovertown
- added Intel Xeon 5320 1860 MHz Clovertown
- added Intel Xeon 5345 2330 MHz Clovertown
- added Intel Xeon 5355 2660 MHz Clovertown

- added Intel Core 2 Quadro Q6600 2400 MHz Conroe
- added Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 2660 MHz Conroe
- added Intel Xeon 3040 1860 MHz Allendale
- added Intel Xeon 3050 2130 MHz Allendale
- added Intel Xeon 3060 2400 MHz Conroe
- added Intel Xeon 3070 2660 MHz Conroe
- added Intel Xeon 3110 2130 MHz Kentsfield
- added Intel Xeon 3120 2400 MHz Kentsfield


http://www.extreme.outervision.com/
 
November 15, 2006


The following changes were made:

Graphics Cards:

- added ATI X1650 XT
- updated NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS
- updated NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT
- updated NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT

Motherboards:

- added new motherboards field with ability to select the following types:
Regular - Desktop
High End - Desktop
Regular - Server
High End - Server

PCI-e Crads:

- added PCI-e x1 card
- added PCI-e x4 card
- added PCI-e x8 card
- added PCI-e x16 card

Pumps:

- added Danger Den MAG II Limited Edition
- added Swiftech MCP355
- added Thermaltake Aquabay M5

Water Cooling Kits:

- added Thermaltake Symphony CL-W0040
- added Thermaltake Symphony Mini CL-W0077
- added Zalman Reserator 2

Fans:

- added 250mm LED fan

Print Page:

- updated print page with above components

eXtreme Power Supply Calculator
 
eXtreme Power Supply Calculator v2.5 has been released!

March 25, 2007

eXtreme Power Supply Calculator v2.5 has been released!


The eXtreme Power Supply Calculator v2.5 now consists of the Lite and Pro versions:
Lite version has only Recommended Wattage.
Pro version has Recommended Wattage plus Amperes per +12V, +5V and +3.3V.


The following changes were made:

Graphics Cards:

- added NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT
- added NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT 512MB

Temporary removed ATI FireGL and NVIDIA Quadro FX cards. The complete list of professional video cards from ATI and NVIDIA will be included in next update.


CPUs:

- added Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 2130 MHz Conroe
- added Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 1860 MHz Conroe
- added Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 2000 MHz Allendale

- added AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 1800 MHz Orleans
- added AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2000 MHz Orleans
- added AMD Athlon 64 3500+ EE 2200 MHz Lima
- added AMD Athlon 64 3800+ EE 2400 MHz Lima
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ EE 2000 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ EE 1900 MHz AM2 Brisbane
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ EE 2600 MHz AM2 Windsor
- added AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ EE 2600 MHz AM2 Windsor

Tec Coolers:

- added CoolIT Systems Freezone - added CoolIT Systems Eliminator

PCI Cards:

- added PCI SATA RAID Card


eXtreme Power Supply Calculator
 
Folks,

I'd like to hear your opinions on the symbolic fee for the Pro version access.
I realize that many of you will not be happy to pay even that small amount. But I also hope you realize how much time and research we (me and my associate) contribute to keep the eXtreme Power Supply Calculator up to date with latest components.
This fee will help us to cover the expenses for research and computer components that we buy for independent testing (Yes, we do buy stuff with our own money).

I'm open to your suggestions. Please let me know what you think about it, especially your concerns. If you have anything to say about it, just throw it in!

If you don't want to post here for any reason, feel free to send an email via our contact form here: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/contact.jsp


Thank You and Best Regards,
mnemonik23
 
EasyRaider said:
These days most people seem to want 400 - 550 W PSUs, while most systems (single video card) peak at less than 200 W, maybe 250 with hefty overclocking.

When alluding to this, the typical justification is some vague notion of future expansion. But considering the new trend of energy efficiency, that doesn't add up unless they plan to go SLI or such.
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I'd like to know where you get these figures from; it's not hard to find reviews where the site plugs the reviewed PC into an ampmeter. "Heavily overclocked" systems use quite a bit more than 250w, hell stock-speed single-vid-card systems can use more than 250W.

Try running a 3.0Ghz Prescott at 4.2Ghz, along with a 7900GT overclocked, along with a pair of 7200 RPM drives and four sticks of 512mb original DDR ram at 533mhz. Then tell me I need "only" 250W...

Back to the original topic: I like the little applet. It may not be 100% accurate (TDP != power consumption, but at least you put in the little scaler for that) but it works for what it's intended. Funny, it thought my system needed a 461W power supply. For the record, I've got a good-brand active-PFC 550W, but I doubt it actually needs that much either :)
 
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