Blur Studios video on the E3 killzone video....
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BenQ said:
Read carefully.
720p is 50% more resolution than PGR3's. Take PGR3's resolution, halve it, add that back on, and you have 720p.
720p = 921600
PGR3 = 614400
The difference IMO is more than slight.
BenQ said:
Bring it on. They never ever ever said it would be standard. Sony in fact has not mandated any minimum resolution, at least publically.
Titanio said:
Easily done.
"We have just been updated by our away team at the SCEA conference that not only will 1080p be supported by the system, but that this is considered the standard resolution for the system."
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614661p1.html
"To match the accelerating convergence of digital consumer electronics and computer technology, PS3 supports high quality display in resolution of 1080p(*) as standard, which is far superior to 720p/1080i."
http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/ps3-official.html
"The PS3 will support resolution of 1080p as standard."
http://news.designtechnica.com/article7445.html
"The part, which has been manufactured by NVIDIA, is described as being more powerful than two GeForce 6800 Ultra boards, which are the current top of the range PC graphics solutions, and will output in HDTV resolutions all the way up to 1080p as standard."
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59106
High-Definition 1080p standard - 1080p is the highest resolution within the HD standard.
http://www.ps2fantasy.com/news/200505/1116339958.php
These you go, there's FIVE links, to where Sony claimed 1080p would be a PS3 standard. Man it's like you guys are forgetting all the BS Sony was spouting at E3 LOL
BenQ said:
Well considering what 'you' transcribed on page 1 was copied and pasted (and also incorrectly transcribed) from a user submitted Gamespot 'Burning Questions' feature I'd actually suggest you go ahead and watch it again yourself and transcribe the previous question while you're at it.
The actual question asked to Tretton is as follows:
INT: "Now I know that there were some other demo's that were shown there. There was Killzone - a lot of people were excited about that. People were wondering you know - was some of the stuff real? Was it CGI? It looked so good I mean what was the sense from you. Is there some stuff in there that's computer - smoke and mirrors?"
He answered a very generalistic question with a specific example - I-8 which he had only just previously been discussing. Yes, by all means call him out for dodging the question, but he is in no way addressing Killzone.
Especially when you listen to what he follows on to with his answer:
Tretton: "It's definitely real, I guess we're pretty good at keeping secrets, because the dev kits were out there. The dev kits are very intuitive so people did some incredible things, and that's one thing that Ted wanted to make sure that everybody understood. That is real gameplay everybody is seeing out there.
Err, and I think the other advantage <interrupted INT: So it is gameplay, all that stuff is all gameplay?> It is gameplay, and I think beyond great gameplay I think we have the opportunity to tap into world wide development resource - cos when you mention something like Killzone that's of our sister company over in Europe"
Yeah so if he is genuinely answering the question with regards to Killzone, how can he possibly bring up Killzone in that manner during his answer?
one said:
They mention it being a "system standard." And in the 3rd link they talk about the 1080p standard in the same sentence as the RSX.... you certianly don't need an RSX for a blue Ray player render movies at 1080p.
Do you really just not remember was Sony said at E3. They touted 1080p as a stanrd to the moon and back. Just type "1080p PS3 standard" into Google.There's really no denying this, not sure why you're even trying.
BenQ said:
As stated in your splinter thread, PS3 having 1080p capability as standard does not mean all games are to be rendered at 1080p. PS3 supports lots of things as standard, whether games use those or not is another matter. Sony has made no public statement about mandated minimum resolution for games.
This is really basic comprehension, BenQ.
Joe DeFuria
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So then everyone's in agreement that PS3 will have at best token support, if any at all, for 1080p with video games.
In other words, resolution no better than XBox 360, and possibly worse depending on how AA works with PS3.
Everyone happy?
In other words, resolution no better than XBox 360, and possibly worse depending on how AA works with PS3.
Everyone happy?
one said:
The 360 is already "capable" of 1080p resolutions, but it's not the standard.
"ATI did clarify that although Microsoft isn't targetting 1080p (1920 x 1080) as a resolution for games, their GPU would be able to handle the resolution"
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2423&p=2
1080p for a game resolution really has NOTHING to do with the kind of disc it comes on. You need something like BlueRay/HD-DVD to display movies in 1080p ( it's a question of storage capacity ), but not for games.
Johnny Awesome
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As I stated during E3: 1080p will never be the standard resolution on PS3, and the Killzone stuff was CGI. These things should have been obvious to everyone. I can't believe that some Sony fans were so blinded by system loyalty as to believe the lies that Guerilla and Sony were putting out. It's pretty shameful.
The PS3 will be a great system, but the X360 will stand up to it 80-90% of the time. It will all depend on the studios.
The PS3 will be a great system, but the X360 will stand up to it 80-90% of the time. It will all depend on the studios.
I'm not talking about disc media. As a matter of fact, the upscaler chip in Xbox 360 doesn't support 1080p output. Then, I remeber in another section of this forum ATI people were hinting the performance diff between Xenos and X1800. IIRC it's basically that at the supported resolution their performance are comparable but in higher res X1800 is much faster. Now, "capable" of 1080p res? Look at PGR3 already without tiling overhead...BenQ said:
I had a discussion about it at an old threadAlstrong said:
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?p=626717
so please look there if necessary. I know it's a launch game but you can't negate these points:
1. Without using tiling they could do a straightforward port of the code on a Mac devkit to the actual Xbox 360 machine
2. The ported code had 2 factors to boost the perf: no tiling overhead, smaller rendering area
3. Nevertheless the result is 30fps
scooby_dooby
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one said:
You also can't negate the point that the PGR3 dev's stated they wanted to redesign the entire game engine after recieving final hardware. In the face of that kind of statement, trying to draw any performance conslusions is a little silly don't you think?
As for the KZ trailer, when a company is sleazy with a capital S, they should be called out for it, instead everyone goes in auto-defense mode. It's a BS move, end of story.
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