"Microsoft aims for hack-proof 360"
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therealskywolf
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I would just like to know how Hackers already got hold of Xbox 360 Kits.
I mean wtf?
I mean wtf?
Mefisutoferesu
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Do you think those groups were contracted to try and hack the Xbox 360, so they could see what parts were insecure and fix them accordingly??
The article doesn't state they have, so I don't know where you got that from...therealskywolf said:
Guden Oden said:
He may be referring to this...
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23020
Eh, not impressed.
The 1st Xbox had security built into it at the hardware level as well (secret boot ROM built into the GPU/NB) as well as a PIC chip on the motherboard to monitor the system and prevent reset exploits and such but hackers still had that thing cracked wide open in about a year after launch.
We'll have to wait and see what the final X360 hardware looks like after some one buys it retail to get an idea if this is just some more BS or not.
The 1st Xbox had security built into it at the hardware level as well (secret boot ROM built into the GPU/NB) as well as a PIC chip on the motherboard to monitor the system and prevent reset exploits and such but hackers still had that thing cracked wide open in about a year after launch.
We'll have to wait and see what the final X360 hardware looks like after some one buys it retail to get an idea if this is just some more BS or not.
therealskywolf said:
This is pretty easy to answer.
MS is trying to make them available to as many devs as possible, there is only so much vetting you can do.
The reason MS has more leaks is simply that more people have information....
We have a lead programmer at work, working on a PS3 title, he can't even see the documentation, because his nationality isn't on the list that Sony legal approved!
They could always go tinfoil-hat paranoid and encase every circuit board with a silicone membrane permeated by thousands of hair-thin conductive wires that would release acid onto the chips if so much as one connection is severed.
The console would run the heavily encrypted OS on top a hardware virtual machine that is in a shielded EEPROM that is itself shielded by two and a half pounds of plastique.
This console would weigh in at 25 pounds, be capable of electrocuting a bull elephant, and cost 3.5 million dollars.
It would probably be hacked after a year and a half.
The console would run the heavily encrypted OS on top a hardware virtual machine that is in a shielded EEPROM that is itself shielded by two and a half pounds of plastique.
This console would weigh in at 25 pounds, be capable of electrocuting a bull elephant, and cost 3.5 million dollars.
It would probably be hacked after a year and a half.
They could just use one of the Dallas high security microcontrollers. They will destroy their internal memory if you try to use a ROM reader on it, take it apart, bus sniffing, and a few other ways too. A few arcade games have used them and MAME devs haven not yet found a way to get the internal data.
I've heard that someone in a lab was able to crack one using an electron microscope though...
I've heard that someone in a lab was able to crack one using an electron microscope though...
Reznor007 said:
Nah there was some .gov hardware that was made by IBM that had similar types of protections + some other stuff too that got hacked several years ago, can't remember the name of it but was back in 1992 or so IIRC.
Fact of the matter is if someone has physical access to your hardware its only a matter of time before they hack it. The most they can do is make it such a nusiance that none of the "casual" console modders will want to bother trying.
Ug Lee said:
Very true. The higher profile the security implementation the more fame that will be earned by hacking it. I wouldn't be suprised to see it hacked faster with a stronger security implementation just because they will attract the attention of the very very smart hackers rather than the people just trying to copy videogames.
Nite_Hawk
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Nite_Hawk said:
I completely agree. Microsoft saying this openly and with as much publicity as they get is just asking for it. The bigger they announce it, the more hackers will be interested in breaking it, the more competitions revs up, the faster it's cracked.
I'll give it a week after it's released. You know some guy in his basement won't let himself sleep until he's figured it out. Then the rest of us simply have to google it.
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